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Disc Review



Innova Champion
Firebird

Type: Driver
Diameter: 21.2cm
Available Weights: 145-150, 165-175g
Plastic: Innova DX

Firebird
Flight Rating Category Value What Innova says:
The Firebird is our longest ultra long range upwind driver. The Firebird's superior speed and stability make play on windy days a breeze. Not recommended for beginners.
Maximum Flight Speed NA
Resistance To High Speed Turn NA
Amount Of Low Speed Fade NA
Propensity To Fade NA
Glide NA
Relative Distance NA
Qualitative Analysis Value
Recommended Skill Level NA
Predictability NA
Uniformity Of Break In Period NA
Overall Durability NA Description of the Ratings System.


Player Reviews

Posted 04-11-08
Submitted by Josh spinachd@gmail.com
Disc Weights: 171-174
Review: The dx Firebird, at about 172g, is my favorite driver. I carry 4 of them in new, worn, beat, and trashed condition, respectively. This covers a vast spectrum of shots in a variety of wind conditions.

New to Worn - headwinds, thumbers, spikes hyzers, strongly fading shots, flex-shots, forehands.

Worn to Beat - hyzer, straight, anhyzer, thumbers, forhand rollers.

Beat to Trashed: hyzer flip, turnovers, backhand rollers


Posted 10-30-07
Submitted by TheCulturedRedneck
Location: Norma, OK
Level: Amateur
Avg Drive: 350
Disc Weights: 155
Review: Found a lightweight Firebird one evening... it has since become my default neutral-wind driver.

My experience is much different than that of previous reviewers (maybe due to the weight difference?). The 'bird tends to leave my hand with a gentle anhyzer line, sometimes ending in a gentle left-fade... sometimes turning over and diving to the right. Even though it has a relatively flat profile, this light disc is unpredictable in heavy wind. My preferred use is on wide-open holes in neutral wind (being confident that it'll get down-range but not sure which side it'll dive towards). Definitely recommended for the scenarios I've described... effective but admittedly limited outside a narrow range.
Posted 11-09-05
Submitted by joejoetheidiotcircusboy frisbgolfer@hotmail.com
Disc Weights: 176
Review: This disc is amazing. it was my first driver and i have never had a problem with it.ive since had about 20 drivers and none have flown like the firebird. it is quite heavy, and an inexperienced thrower needs quite a chuck to get it to fly right. the champion seems to curve more but fade less, so it balances out. i recommend it to any level player.
Posted 09-22-05
Submitted by Jordan jordan.blake@sbcglobal.net
Location: Springfield, MO
Level: Beginner
Avg Drive: 300
Disc Weights: 168
Review: I bought this disc as part of a lot, not knowing much about it. Innova doesn't recommend it for beginners, so I nearly got rid of it before I ever threw it. After a couple of backhand throws, I felt like throwing it in the trash. True to form, it takes a ton of speed to get it to fly like it is supposed to. Messing around out of curiosity I threw it side-arm, and I didn't think it would ever stop! I'm now able to throw my Firebird, sidearm, consistently and accurately 350'. I haven't played yet on a windy day, but I can't wait to throw the Firebird into the wind.
Posted: 9-06-03
Submitted by PDogg klestrob44@hotmail.com
The Firebird (dx) is best for forehand drives, and is extremely heavy. It still catches so much air, that I have to throw it almost directly at the ground- and when you throw it correctly it will go very, very far and go very, very straight with just a tiny curve at the end. It's very flat as well, and I find that if thrown back-hand it will take advantage of it's overstable characteristics and curve much at the end of its flight.

This is my first disc, and that was a bad idea since I had to adapt to it; (and that took about a week or two), and it is way way way too heavy for a beginner. If you are a beginner, and only want to buy one disc (the firebird is a great disc to have if you only want one) to practice with, make sure you aim close to the ground or it will curve way too much.

In fact, if you're a beginner I recommend the Innova Puma, if you're kinda good and still intermediate and barely getting par, I recommend just a mid-range driver like the Cheetah, and if you're a pro and need a long distance driver that if thrown correctly will not go too un-stable then this is the disc for you.

The best part about the Firebird: when thrown at the ground and in a straight line; it'll never betray you and fly upwards at the end of the flight. (which is very good). Too bad I threw my Firebird into a creek and lost it...
Posted: 04-21-02
By Blake Takkunen - the Webmaster - <blake@discgolf.com>
My Review:
The Firebird is a very fast small diameter overstable driver. Its flight characteristics are most noticably its high turnover resistance, extreme speed, and lack of glide. I find the Firebird difficult to compare to other overstable drivers on the market as it has a straighter flight path and more sudden fade than the consistent fade of some of the comperable discs on the market, i.e. Banshee, Viper, X-Clone, Xtra. The Firebird is excellent for drives into a headwind and its turnover resistance is very high so it should hold a flat or hyzer line into any wind condition. It's also one of the fastest discs on the market and takes a very large amount of power to throw. While discs like the Banshee and Xtra have more of a sweeping line, the Firebird will fly fairly straight until it begins to slow down and then it will fade very hard as it slows down and then drop out of the sky. Due to this, the Firebird does not have a partciularly long flight as the "slow down" can happen very early in its flight if you don't get enough on it. The DX version of this disc is slightly less overstable than the CE version, but much more overstable than the KC. From my experience, the Firebird makes an excellent headwind driver but it's not a very versatile disc.
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