Worlds Amatuer Payouts

[mnshooter]

Here are the payouts- Without adding it up it looks like about maybe $4000 in funny money. Where did the rest of the $28,000 go? I play a lot of pool and usually you can win $300 for first place with a 32 man tournament and $25 entry fee. They should be adding money and not taking it out. Also they should be paying real money. Unless this money is going to the pro division. Winning real money shouldn't classify you as a pro.

1 $160 B T 31 $60 61 $30 91 $15
2 $300 T 32 $60 62 $30 92 $15
3 $260 T 33 $60 63 $30 93 $15
4 $230 T 34 $60 64 $30 94 $15
5 $200 T 35 $60 65 $30 95 $15
6 $170 T 36 $55 66 $30 96 $15
7 $150 T 37 $55 67 $30 97 $15
8 $140 T 38 $55 68 $30 98 $15
9 $130 T 39 $55 69 $30 99 $15
10 $120 T 40 $55 70 $30 100 $15
11 $110 41 $50 71 $25 101 $10
12 $110 42 $50 72 $25 102 $10
13 $110 43 $50 73 $25 103 $10
14 $100 44 $50 74 $25 104 $10
15 $100 45 $50 75 $25 105 $10
16 $100 46 $45 76 $25 106 $10
17 $90 47 $45 77 $25 107 $10
18 $90 48 $45 78 $25 108 $10
19 $90 49 $45 79 $25 109 $10
20 $80 50 $45 80 $25 110 $10
21 $80 51 $40 81 $20 111 $10
22 $80 52 $40 82 $20 112 $10
23 $70 53 $40 83 $20 113 $10
24 $70 54 $40 84 $20 114 $10
25 $70 55 $40 85 $20
26 $65 56 $35 86 $20
27 $65 57 $35 87 $20
28 $65 58 $35 88 $20
29 $65 59 $35 89 $20
30 $65 60 $35 90 $20

Coming from other sports disc golf has some of the stupidest professional rules I can think of. A professional is one who makes a living off of whatever they are doing. By that definition only the top 2-3 players would be classified as a pro.

On another note you should not be able to just not accept money to keep your amatuer status. If you are playing well enough to cash you should have to play in the open division.

[MDR_3000]

I'm guessing the money went to player packs, player's party and other stuff like that.

[garublador]

Being a pro compared to being an am really only comes down to whether or not you get paid to do it. Skill level really doesn't have anything to do with it. The best am in the world could be better than the best pro, but if he or she doesn't accept any money for it, they should still be able to play in the amateur divisions. If I'm not mistaken, that's pretty much how most other sports work.

[deaddisc]

Id imagine that they supplemented the pro payout with a large chuck of that 28K. In tournies here in NEFA land the pro payout is almost always consisting of pro and am money.

[MDR_3000]

there was a pro payout at Am Worlds?

[deaddisc]

No there wasnt a pro payout at AM Worlds, i get it smarty pants. But they are both run by the same sanctioning body (PDGA) and thus the extra am money could easily have been transferred over to the payouts for PRO Worlds.

[MDR_3000]

They are run under the same sanctioning body...but they were run by two completely different teams of people.

[deaddisc]

But the high-level management must be the same people (PDGA BOD etc.) These are the people who should be handling the monetary aspect, no offense to Chuck K. or any of his people that helped to run the Worlds in WI. Id suspect that the entry fees are sent directly to the PDGA and then the PDGA doles out money to the smaller group running the tourney as they see fit. Obviously this is all speculation and to be honest you are taking it to be more than that. I do not know where the money went, im just hypothesizing based on my previous tourney experience in New England.

[MDR_3000]

But the high-level management must be the same people (PDGA BOD etc.) These are the people who should be handling the monetary aspect, no offense to Chuck K. or any of his people that helped to run the Worlds in WI. Id suspect that the entry fees are sent directly to the PDGA and then the PDGA doles out money to the smaller group running the tourney as they see fit. Obviously this is all speculation and to be honest you are taking it to be more than that. I do not know where the money went, im just hypothesizing based on my previous tourney experience in New England.

I know you are just speculating, and I'm just saying that you are wrong.

That's not how money is handled in most tournaments...I've played over 100 sanctioned events and it's only happened like that (am money to pro purse), is because the TD didn't know any better.

[deaddisc]

But the high-level management must be the same people (PDGA BOD etc.) These are the people who should be handling the monetary aspect, no offense to Chuck K. or any of his people that helped to run the Worlds in WI. Id suspect that the entry fees are sent directly to the PDGA and then the PDGA doles out money to the smaller group running the tourney as they see fit. Obviously this is all speculation and to be honest you are taking it to be more than that. I do not know where the money went, im just hypothesizing based on my previous tourney experience in New England.

I know you are just speculating, and I'm just saying that you are wrong.

That's not how money is handled in most tournaments...I've played over 100 sanctioned events and it's only happened like that (am money to pro purse), is because the TD didn't know any better.

How bout a little tact man??? Im trying hard to not turn this into a flamewar and you seem to be driving straight towards it with your snippy, underhanded comments. BTW: I'll go inform most of the NEFA TD's that they are incorrect in their assumptions when it comes to the proper payout schemes, that should win me some local love im sure

[DanTaylor]

i like pie!!!!!

[MDR_3000]

But the high-level management must be the same people (PDGA BOD etc.) These are the people who should be handling the monetary aspect, no offense to Chuck K. or any of his people that helped to run the Worlds in WI. Id suspect that the entry fees are sent directly to the PDGA and then the PDGA doles out money to the smaller group running the tourney as they see fit. Obviously this is all speculation and to be honest you are taking it to be more than that. I do not know where the money went, im just hypothesizing based on my previous tourney experience in New England.

I know you are just speculating, and I'm just saying that you are wrong.

That's not how money is handled in most tournaments...I've played over 100 sanctioned events and it's only happened like that (am money to pro purse), is because the TD didn't know any better.

How bout a little tact man??? Im trying hard to not turn this into a flamewar and you seem to be driving straight towards it with your snippy, underhanded comments. BTW: I'll go inform most of the NEFA TD's that they are incorrect in their assumptions when it comes to the proper payout schemes, that should win me some local love im sure

what the hell are you talking aboot?

[some call me...tim?]

I don't think MDR is trying to pick a fight or anything, he's just very laconic.

[deaddisc]

Maybe i misunderstood his tone (or lack thereof apparantly), and for that I apoligize. Sometimes it's tough to understand when people online are being sarcastic/rude and when they are just being blunt.

[MDR_3000]

I don't think MDR is trying to pick a fight or anything, he's just very laconic.

nice word...I had to look it up. But it does describe me very well.