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White dye?

Postby JohnnyB » Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:49 pm

Is there any thing out there that can be used to get a decent white color in a dye?
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Postby dgdave » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:17 pm

Properly places vinyl on a white discs :P

As far as I know, there isn't any dye for white.
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Postby ChUcK » Wed Oct 01, 2008 9:06 pm

Who knows? Maybe there's a way to get a white pigment dissolved in something-or-other, but not amongst the shelves at my local drugstore.
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Postby mark12b » Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:14 pm

nah, to get an opaque white you'd need to use paint, not dye, which would add detectable thickness. whiteness in paint comes from (transparent!) particles that stick to the surface. it's like snow at a tiny scale.

see wikipedia article:

This is also true for artificial paints and pigments, where white results when finely divided transparent material of a high refractive index is suspended in a contrasting binder. Typically paints contain calcium carbonate and/or synthetic rutile with no other pigments if a white color is desired.
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Postby ChUcK » Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:29 pm

Thanks for crushing everyone's dreams underneath your heel like an old dog-end, Mark. I knotting up my rope as we speak, looks like living on the 4th floor of a building will finally come in handy. :(
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Postby mark12b » Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:08 pm

my pleasure, any time man! :twisted: :twisted: it's nice to finally use my crummy old art degree to make a difference in the world!
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Postby JohnnyB » Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:20 pm

Damn. No hope on getting a good multicolor on champ or z plastic.
On another note. How badly would a few lines and dots of white paint effect a discs flight? And what would be the best method for getting it to stay?
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Postby ChUcK » Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:10 am

It would hurt it enough to make it illegal for sanctioned use.

Who says you can't get a multi-color dye on Z plastic? Have you even tried?
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Postby The Euphoric Nightmare » Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:16 am

They do make transparent Champion plastic discs.
"Ice" discs I've heard them called.
They're hard to find as most of em get the factory dye treatment :cry: .
But every now and then they'll just stamp em and send them off to retailers.
Ask around the online dealers, you'll eventually find some.

Easy to multi color with those without having to worry about color blending.

Here's what I did with the one I found
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Dyed it blue with the snowflake pattern on it.
Was raffled off at an Ice Bowl.
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Postby tumpsi » Fri Oct 03, 2008 4:23 am

white dye vs. scanning a mirror! can't decide which is more awesome.
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Postby JohnnyB » Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:09 am

ChUcK wrote:It would hurt it enough to make it illegal for sanctioned use.

Who says you can't get a multi-color dye on Z plastic? Have you even tried?


You can pull it off. Just adapt for color mixing etc. but I also like to do faces in my dye's so if you do the multicolor and the eyes aren't white it doesn't look right.
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Postby rehder » Sat Oct 04, 2008 7:07 am

you mean ice like this?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25727021@N04/2419119906/



I have two of those I want to let go. But I dont know if you are interested in paying shipping, which would probably be some $$
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Postby Roy » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:36 am

What about "Ecru" CAn you slap that on a black disc and have it turn grey?

MAybe a clearish Z into a more opaque?
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Postby ChUcK » Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:54 pm

JohnnyB wrote: but I also like to do faces in my dye's so if you do the multicolor and the eyes aren't white it doesn't look right.


If the eyes accidentally came out red it would look just fine for some people's portaits 8)

How's this for lightening the color of a disc? This started out as, and continues to be, a blue champ beast. Notice that it isn't a trick of white backlighting or anything silly like that.
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I guess it is as trick of contrast, though. I just masked off Bender and dyed the rest of the disc a little more blue, thereby making his body appear to have lightened. Even when you hold the disc in your hand and inspect it, Bender looks white. And he can't jump.
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Re: White dye?

Postby Leopard » Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:14 pm

A) Bender keeps me watching Futurama, as does Roger on American Dad. The Bender and Roger Show would own my TV.

B) A lot of the plastic dyes (factory stock plastic color) will bleach out in sunlight -- so it stands to reason that a masked Champ disc in the sun for a few days would lighten from its base color. purple seems to be the most bleachinest color (for innova)... they'll go clear eventualy.
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