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Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Sat Apr 17, 2010 1:31 am

Im pretty jazzed the discs I ordered have arrived. So I decided to list what I think my bag should be. I am RHBH and my distance is 300 with control. If I start to put any more distance at the moment I get squirrelly. So I have disced down some to help with this till I get my form more secure. Also some of the discs I listed as seasoned are brand new and just listed in that slot for what I want them to become.

I am open to all the help and advice

I do have a question on maybe tossing in a meteor in my mid slots?

Stable Control Drivers
Pro-D Clone 165 X 3
Pro-D Clone 175 X 3
ESP Clone 167 x 1 (There are a couple holes on the course I play that is very hard on base plastic. So I use this one.


Distance Drivers
None ATM (till I get some more control) Hopefully in the next couple months. Though I have 3 PDs on the table ready to roll.

Understable Driver
Pro-D Clone – 165/175 seasoned

Moderately Overstable Driver
Pro-D Clone – 165/175

Very Overstable Driver
ESP Pulse 175 x 2 I use this a lot to S around corners and make that sharp turn

Mids:
ESP Buzz – Strait shots (and when there is tough terrain) x1
Pro-D Buzz Seasoned for anhyzer x2 (Only one of those is beat in the other is in the bag to start the process)
Elite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots

Putters:
1st run jk pro 173 – putting broken in supper stable
1st run jk pro 174 Newish so along just in case
S wizard – Beat in Use it for anhyzers
S wizard firm – for off the tee

Trick discs
Z flick 150 g – I use this to get me out of trouble

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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby jubuttib » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:14 pm

Don't know enough about Discraft's discs to comment on those, but the PD isn't really a distance driver, though it can be thrown long if you have the technique. For me my S and C ones fill my control overstable and meathook slots accordingly. I'll see what the Ps can do when they arrive (hurry up Timko!).
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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:13 pm

I did not do a good job explaining what I meant. I was thinking that the PD would be a step up from the clone after looking at Joe' chart for the clone and comparing the info for the PD.

At least that was my thinking

I played a 36 today with this bag today and I felt I was a little lacking in the understable mid department. This may also be a problem of new discs and they are just not beat enough. For the life of me I could not get my buzz to do anything besides go straight.

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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby jubuttib » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:32 pm

Umm, that's what the Buzzz does, it goes straight. If it didn't it wouldn't be a proper Buzzz. =)

Try releasing it with some anhyzer, at least the ones I've tried have been great at holding angles.
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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby NoLifeLeft » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:35 pm

koffee wrote:I did not do a good job explaining what I meant. I was thinking that the PD would be a step up from the clone after looking at Joe' chart for the clone and comparing the info for the PD.

I think the PD is a good next step, may also want to look into the OLF. The OLF has more S-curve potential, PDs are good at straight. Just depends on your style really.
koffee wrote:I played a 36 today with this bag today and I felt I was a little lacking in the understable mid department. This may also be a problem of new discs and they are just not beat enough. For the life of me I could not get my buzz to do anything besides go straight.

*cough* comet *cough*
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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:42 pm

jubuttib wrote:Umm, that's what the Buzzz does, it goes straight. If it didn't it wouldn't be a proper Buzzz. =)

Try releasing it with some anhyzer, at least the ones I've tried have been great at holding angles.


Those attempts were with anhyzers and hyzers and about 100 ft it would just tilt back over to a straight line. Though none that I have atm are really seasoned so being new is probably the issue.

Thank you for the feed back As usual it is appreciated

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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:45 pm

NoLifeLeft wrote:
koffee wrote:I did not do a good job explaining what I meant. I was thinking that the PD would be a step up from the clone after looking at Joe' chart for the clone and comparing the info for the PD.

I think the PD is a good next step, may also want to look into the OLF. The OLF has more S-curve potential, PDs are good at straight. Just depends on your style really.
koffee wrote:I played a 36 today with this bag today and I felt I was a little lacking in the understable mid department. This may also be a problem of new discs and they are just not beat enough. For the life of me I could not get my buzz to do anything besides go straight.

*cough* comet *cough*


Thanks for the feedback ill check the olf out and see what it is like.

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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby keltik » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:55 pm

bag looks great. only thing i would suggest is picking between the Aviar and the Wizard. If you want a hard Aviar get a KC Pro. If you want a Softer Wiz just get an SS or SSS Wiz (note they don't get Floppy so to speak). I wouldn't suggest this if you were rockin' like a magnet and rhyno. the BB Aviar and Wizard are just too similar.

If you are looking for a "Distance Driver" I would say a good step up is the Elite-X Avenger, ORC, or the PD. They don't require a ton of power and aren't awkward to grip. The Valkyrie is also a good bomber regardless of power level. only problem is it can get squirrelly.

and yeah you may want to check out a Comet. It will change your life.
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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:49 am

koffee wrote:Im pretty jazzed the discs I ordered have arrived. So I decided to list what I think my bag should be. I am RHBH and my distance is 300 with control. If I start to put any more distance at the moment I get squirrelly. So I have disced down some to help with this till I get my form more secure. Also some of the discs I listed as seasoned are brand new and just listed in that slot for what I want them to become.

I am open to all the help and advice

I do have a question on maybe tossing in a meteor in my mid slots?

Stable Control Drivers
Pro-D Clone 165 X 3
Pro-D Clone 175 X 3
ESP Clone 167 x 1 (There are a couple holes on the course I play that is very hard on base plastic. So I use this one.


Distance Drivers
None ATM (till I get some more control) Hopefully in the next couple months. Though I have 3 PDs on the table ready to roll.

Understable Driver
Pro-D Clone – 165/175 seasoned

Moderately Overstable Driver
Pro-D Clone – 165/175

Very Overstable Driver
ESP Pulse 175 x 2 I use this a lot to S around corners and make that sharp turn

Mids:
ESP Buzz – Strait shots (and when there is tough terrain) x1
Pro-D Buzz Seasoned for anhyzer x2 (Only one of those is beat in the other is in the bag to start the process)
Elite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots

Putters:
1st run jk pro 173 – putting broken in supper stable
1st run jk pro 174 Newish so along just in case
S wizard – Beat in Use it for anhyzers
S wizard firm – for off the tee

Trick discs
Z flick 150 g – I use this to get me out of trouble

CHEERS - Koffee



I am open to all the help and advice

I do have a question on maybe tossing in a meteor in my mid slots?

Stable Control Drivers
Pro-D Clone 165 X 3
Pro-D Clone 175 X 3


Distance Drivers
None ATM (till I get some more control) Hopefully in the next couple months. Though I have 3 PDs on the table ready to roll.

Understable Driver
Pro-D Clone – 165/175 seasoned

Moderately Overstable Driver
Pro-D Clone – 165/175

Very Overstable Driver
ESP Pulse 175 x 2 I use this a lot to S around corners and make that sharp turn

Mids:

ESP Buzz – Strait shots (and when there is tough terrain) x1
Pro-D Buzz Seasoned for anhyzer x2 (Only one of those is beat in the other is in the bag to start the process)
Elite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots

Putters:

Wizard Medium 165 Putting (I may try to trim this down my putters to one mold just not sure at the moment)
Wizard medium 175 putting
VP – 175 - Upshots
VP – 165 Upshots

Disc removed from bag

1st run jk pro 173 – putting broken in supper stable – Removed atm testing wizard and vps
1st run jk pro 174 Newish so along just in case
Removed ESP Clone – I felt just as comfortable with base plastic
I also ditched the flick I just have not used it recently.



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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby discraft » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:41 am

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koffee wrote: played a 36 today with this bag today and I felt I was a little lacking in the understable mid department. This may also be a problem of new discs and they are just not beat enough. For the life of me I could not get my buzz to do anything besides go straight.

Your buzz will work when it gets a little more beat.I throw Buzz/Meteor combo.I love the Meteor so I say yes try it out.You will be surprised how far it will go for a midrange.
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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Fri May 14, 2010 3:37 pm

bag update


Stable Control Drivers
ESP Cyclone – 175g x 2
X Cyclone – 175g

Distance Drivers
P – PD - 175g
P – PD 165g
S – PD 175 g – headwind atm

Understable Driver
Pro D cyclone – 175g
Pro D Cyclone – 165g


Moderately Overstable Driver
S – PD – 175 g
ESP cyclone - for control shots



Very Overstable Driver
?
?

Mids:

Meteor – 165g anhyzers
Pro-D Buzz x 2
Elite – Z Buzz – pink to use when the grass and weeds are nasty
Elite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots

Putters:

Wizard Soft Glow – 175 g X 2
VP – 175 - Upshots
ridge - upshots

Things that changed

1. cyclones - Loving it
2. Removed Pulses – They were awesome when I was throwing forehand but was not really wild about them as a BH disc
3. Decided to move to a Soft wizard max weight – They really remind me of my old JK aviar – xs
4. added a meteor was just going to do this till I seasoned a buzz. However I really like this disc and for the near future keeping it in the bag.
5. Added X and esp cyclones to the mix in hopes they turn out to be more durable with them pesky trees that get in the way.
6. Looking to add a max D driver when I decide on a flavor.

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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Thu May 20, 2010 1:29 am

koffee wrote:bag update


Stable Control Drivers
ESP Cyclone – 175g x 2
X Cyclone – 175g

Distance Drivers
P – PD - 175g
P – PD 165g
S – PD 175 g – headwind atm

Understable Driver
Pro D cyclone – 175g
Pro D Cyclone – 165g


Moderately Overstable Driver
S – PD – 175 g
ESP cyclone - for control shots



Very Overstable Driver
?
?

Mids:

Meteor – 165g anhyzers
Pro-D Buzz x 2
Elite – Z Buzz – pink to use when the grass and weeds are nasty
Elite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots

Putters:

Wizard Soft Glow – 175 g X 2
VP – 175 - Upshots
ridge - upshots

Things that changed

1. cyclones - Loving it
2. Removed Pulses – They were awesome when I was throwing forehand but was not really wild about them as a BH disc
3. Decided to move to a Soft wizard max weight – They really remind me of my old JK aviar – xs
4. added a meteor was just going to do this till I seasoned a buzz. However I really like this disc and for the near future keeping it in the bag.
5. Added X and esp cyclones to the mix in hopes they turn out to be more durable with them pesky trees that get in the way.
6. Looking to add a max D driver when I decide on a flavor.

CHEERS - Koffee



bag update


Stable Control Drivers
ESP Cyclone – 175g x 2
X Cyclone – 175g

Distance Drivers
P – PD - 175g
P – PD 165g
S – PD 175 g – headwind atm

Understable Driver
Pro D cyclone – 175g
Pro D Cyclone – 165g


Moderately Overstable Driver
S – PD – 175 g
ESP cyclone - for control shots



Very Overstable Driver
Destroyer – Echo star 175g – Max D and FH Disc
Destroyer – Champion 175 Head wind disc

Mids:

Pro-D Buzz – max weight – turn over disc when windy
Pro-D Buzz – 165 turn over for those calm days
Elite – Z Buzz – pink to use when the grass and weeds are nasty
Elite-Z Glo – Buzz for strait and hyzer shots

Putters:

Wizard Soft Glow – 175 g X 2
VP – 175 - Upshots
ridge - upshots

Things that changed

1. Removed the meteor – I liked the disc but was just always grabbing my D buzzes instead. They might go back in depending on the life span of D buzzes in wooded areas.
2. Added a destroyer – echo star
3. Added champ destroyer

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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby kern9787 » Thu May 20, 2010 3:16 pm

In all honesty, a destroyer isn't a truly stable disc. It may fly stable for you now, but as you start throwing better, it will not show as much HSS. In the long run, I think you would be better off sticking with your PD's for distance, with the S being your headwind distance, and picking up a truly overstable mold such as a firebird, predator, xxx, etc.
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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby koffee » Thu May 20, 2010 4:11 pm

I am using it for my over stable driver unless I fat fingered it. It is for fh and for the max D spot. As guestimating my distance in the field is around 400 maybe little more its been little hard to gauge because it has just been super windy this last week so I think I am in the range to start using a max D driver.

Thank you for the advice

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Re: Koffees' Bag

Postby kern9787 » Thu May 20, 2010 4:24 pm

So the destroyer is working fine for you for max D and a very overstable slot? Shows how much I know about them then. :D
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