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Re: Bored bag post

Postby JR » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:04 am

My Archon flips hard and fades too hard while being too slow for best distance. See Destroyer is as fast but doesn't flip as hard fading only a hair more so it is way more golfable and controllable. Destro is better in the winds also because of the thinner profile allows it to cut through headwind first. Boss is faster and flips way less flying farther with skips often but the Boss is way more golfable controllable disc even in some winds. Good Kings and Nukes not to mention Bliz Bosses leave the Archon in the dust distance wise on average. Sure once in a blue moon with proper landing forward skips of the Archon even out things but many courses reduce skips so the Archon is left less reliable, accurate, consistent and is shorter and gets raped by the winds. What's to like in an Archon? If that type of flight is desireable how about a Vulcan possibly a lighter than max weight one?

Throwing the Roady higher allows it to fade from flat. It isn't designed for fades though so other discs would be better for that and at your power PDs and Preds are nice.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Snow Bag

Postby CatPredator » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:21 am

Another fun season of warm weather disc golf has passed. Going to a cold weather setup for a while.

150 Blizzard Destroyer - small dome, general purpose

175 ESP Predator
175 S PD
170 P PD - still fresh
172 Champ Valkyrie
171 Echo Star Roadrunner

175 Star Eagle
170 Star TeeBird
169 Champ Leopard - flatter, stable/neutral
169 Champ EL - seasoned, lots of turn
170 DX EX - beat, standstills, powered down stuff, crazy flip shots

179 FLX Drone
177 Ti Wasp
179 Cryztal Buzzz
175 Z Comet

170/175 KC Pro Aviars
175 Yeti Aviar
168 DX Classic Aviar
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12 inches of snow bag

Postby CatPredator » Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:35 am

We got a foot of snow this weekend so it's survival time. I'm using a small bag. Lightens the load and simplifies the game. Pullin' the regulars out of rotation for now.

158 Blizzard Destroyer - little turn, slow fade, good glide, easy to control in shitty conditions
168 Pro Destroyer - flippy 'n grippy, easiest distance in the cold
170 Star Starfire - overstable driver

175 Champ TB - flatty, fugly orange/inked flight plate that's hard to see on dirt or leaves
174 Volt - flies similar to a fresh Eagle-L for me, didn't make the regular bag but it's serviceable
170 DX EX - beat

170 D Zone - seasoned
175 X Buzzz - newish
175 D Buzzz - seasoned
175 SS Wizard x 2 - newish/seasoned, general purpose winter putters


Been having a hard time filling out my Xmas list this year too. Might throw some Vibram stuff on there. I'm curious to see how the drivers and mids perform in the wintry conditions. I've thrown the Ascent and Obex in the past and was pleasantly surprised by the flight and feel but never bothered to buy any for myself. I'm fairly resistant to change, but only because it seems like most discs work fine and I don't see a reason to change. However, if the Ibex and Trak still glide and grip well in the cold, it might be a nice core of discs to build a winter bag around, and they might be able to sneak into my regular setup.
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Re: Bored bag post

Postby CatPredator » Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Spring 2013 is here, though you wouldn't know it by stepping outside around here...:x I took off all of January and February, partly because of the crappy winter weather this year, but also to focus on conditioning. Been getting back into the swing of things the last couple weeks. Picked up a few toys over the winter. Not sure how they all fit in the bag once things heat up, but for now I'm really enjoying the feel & flight of the Vibrams.

Distance Drivers
171 VIP Giant
175 Star Destroyer
175 Star Wraith
167 Firm Lace
171 Champion Tern

Fairway/Control
170 Z Predator
173 Medium Ascent
171 Champion Eagle-X
175 Champion Teebird x2
172 Star Teebird x2
171 Echo Star Roadrunner

Mid-Range
179 FLX Drone
180 Champion Roc3
175 Medium Ibex
175 Z Comet

Short Game
175/170 KC Pro Aviar
175 Yeti Pro Aviar
172/170 DX Aviar P&A

Here's to another healthy, fun, successful year of disc golf....huzzah :!:
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Standard update

Postby CatPredator » Tue May 07, 2013 4:01 pm

I didn't fall in love with any of the molds I was trying out so I threw 'em in the trade bin and stuck in a bunch of old regulars. The only exception is perhaps the Giant. Its got a nice blend of stability and glide for a wind fighter.

VIP Giant
Star Destroyer x2
Star Wraith x3

Champ Firebird
C PD
Teebirds: Champ x2, Star x1
Echo* Roadrunner

FLX Drone
Q Sentinel
Z Buzzz x2
ESP Meteor

KC Pro Aviar x2
Yeti Pro Aviar
DX Classic Aviar
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Re: Bored bag post

Postby CatPredator » Fri May 17, 2013 5:29 pm

Playing with a simpler bag and being able to get out on a regular basis in comfortable weather has really helped tighten up the game.

VIP Giant
Star Destroyer x3
Star Wraith

FAF Champ Firebird
Champ Teebird x3
Star Teebird
Echo Star Roadrunner

FLX Drone
Proton Vector
CryZtal Buzzz
ESP Meteor

KC Pro Aviar x2
Yeti Pro Aviar
Classic Aviar

The Giant has been nice so far. It flies a nice predictable line but seems to go a little farther than I expect from my headwind fighting overstable driver. I know the comparison is far too often drawn, but with the right zip, it flies a lot like a beefy Teebird, only much faster. That's been great, because I've been throwing a lot of Teebirds. I picked up a Glow Champ CFR TB this year and it's also been pretty awesome. It's power hungry and likes to fade. Very throwable in high winds, and great for placement all the time. The other two champ birds are seasoned but still like power and will hold a line when crushed, or fade when finessed. The Star is a slow turnover disc, and works great for a lot of stuff.

I really like the Sentinel, but I just hesitate to throw them on dicey shots where I might lose them, and I can't stand that, so I'm back to the Vector. It's a little domey and has pretty darn good HSS and a nice fade. It's pretty power hungry as well, and likes to be crushed, so it throws a lot like a champ TB. There's been less brain clutter when I'm stepping up to my shots, and I've been able to see my lines pretty well with this array of discs.

The one mold that may reappear soon is the Comet. It's awesome, but it got crowded out for now.
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Re: Bored bag post

Postby CatPredator » Thu Aug 08, 2013 3:59 pm

Still digging the Giant. So much so that I splurged on a few other Swedish discs: a Flow, Saint, and Sword. The most impressive of the three was the VIP Flow. Nice dome, great feel, and more stable than I was expecting. Hoping it breaks in nicely. The TP Sword, on the other hand, is flattish and way more understable than the numbers would indicate. Disappointing. The Saint is a domey RGL and doesn't do anything that's too exciting for me. Fine driver but I'm comfortable with my fairway/control drivers already.

VIP Giant
VIP Flow
Star Wraith
CFR Champ Vulcan - poppy top seems to give it extra glide and stability for a Vulcan

Champion Firebird
Glow Champ Teebird
Champ Teebird x2
Star Teebird
Echo Star Roadrunner

FLX Drone
Proton Vector
CryZtal Buzzz
Z Comet
ESP Meteor

KC Pro Aviar x2
Yeti Pro Aviar
DX Classic Aviar
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Re: Bored bag post

Postby JR » Fri Aug 09, 2013 3:38 am

Technically the Sword and the Giant are Finnish although manufactured in Sweden. VIP Swords are a little more overstable than the TPs. But the discs vary. Flow plastic is named Opto. Which almost the same as the Westside VIP.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Bored bag post

Postby CatPredator » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:05 pm

Got our first snowfall of the year last night. Just a couple inches. It won't stick around for long but it's a sign of things to come. Wrapped up the year with a relatively standard setup. Had good experiences with the Giant and Flow but I tossed the Giant into the drink and the Flow just fell out of favor for the Wraith/Destroyer combo.

175 C PD2 - overstable stuff
175 Star Destroyer - pretty overstable
171 Champ Destroyer - domey, seasoned and a little straighter than the Star
175 Star Wraith - seasoned work horse
171 Start Wraith - newer and a little more stable
175 Pro Wraith - turnovers, tailwinds, rollers, etc.

175 Champ Firebird
175 S PD - nice combo of stability and distance for controlled long shots
172 CFR Glow Champ Teebird - beefy shorter fading shots
175 Champ Teebird - Been in the bag longer than any other disc at this point, just a great workhorse for neutral/stable stuff
172 Star Teebird - getting pretty seasoned up, long slow turnovers or neutral powered down stuff
171 Echo Star Roadrunner - hyzer flips, rollers that need to sit down quickly, etc.

179 FLX Drone - forehands, chip shots, flex shots, etc...
175 Champ Roc3 - nice combo of predictability and versatility
175 DX Roc - straight stuff
170 DX Roc - seasoned for slow turnovers and powered down neutral stuff
172 ESP Meteor - just don't have a Roc beat into this stage of flippiness yet, deep hyzers that flip all the way over and don't come back, powered down stuff

175 KC Pro Aviar - pretty beefy still; drives, up shots and some putts
170 KC Pro Aviar - main putter
172 DX Aviar - longer/straighter putts, turnover drives, up shots
168 DX Classic Aviar - super straight at low speeds, easy approaches and long tricky putts
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