What's in the bag 2012 edition

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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby Atreau3 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:25 pm

172 Beat First Run Champion Boss
167 Starlight Boss
174 Fresh Z Predator
172 X Predator
170 Beat First Run ESP Surge
170 Z Sparkle Rogue
170 Beat Z Sparkle Rogue
174 First Run CE Leo
174 Beat 2nd Run CE Leo
173 Beat Special Blend Roadrunner
178 Crystal Buzzz SS
175 Z Buzzz SS
175 Beat Z Buzzz SS
180 Evolution Warrior
175 Soft Wizard
175 Beat Soft Wizard
175 CE Aviar
175 BEAT BEAT Chains Aviar
174 Glow Soft Wizard (Putter)

All in a new Grip EQ Bag
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby Andy-MN » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:38 pm

174 Z Nuke
172 Echo Star Wraith
172 Champion Wraith
171 Pro Wraith
175 Champion Monster
172 Champion Monster

172 11X KC Pro Teebird
172 Echo Star Teebird
170 Star Teebird
172 S-FD
171 S-FD

170 DX Roc
175 DX Roc
176 11X KC Pro Roc
178 Big Bird Rancho Roc
175 11X KC Pro Roc

172 DX Polecat
172 4X JK Pro Aviar-x
173 3X JK Pro Aviar-x

Team Carolina Rev Bag
Nuke - Wraith - Monster - Teebird - Leopard - 11X Roc - 4X JK Aviar-x
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby colombo117 » Sat May 05, 2012 7:29 am

Drivers:
ESP Surge 174
Z Predator 174
Star Valkyrie 175
Champion Eagle X
Star Eagle X
Champion Eagle L
Opto XXX

Mids:
DX Roc
DX Roc

Putters:
Soft Challenger
Soft Challenger
Soft Ion
Ion Challenger Roc EL/EX QJLS Valkyrie Predator
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby NeuralBlaze » Thu May 10, 2012 10:56 pm

Stable / Overstable
172g C-Line PD Freak 10/10
175g S-Line PD Freak 10/10

Neutral / Understable
171g P-Line PD Freak - 8/10
167g P-Line PD Freak - 10/10

9 Speed Utility
177g Star Firebird 8/10
170g Champion Roadrunner 9/10

Control / Stable Fairway
173g Gold Line Striker

Control / Understable Fairway
173g Gold Line River
170g Test Run River

171g Gold Line Fuse - 10/10
177g Proton Axis 10/10
177g Proton Vector 10/10

174g Medium Anode
172-173 SS/SSS Wizards

Fade Gear Crunch Box
Wizard // JOKERi // Anode // Fuse // Axis // Vector // Firebird // Amp // River // PD
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby Mlk95 » Mon May 28, 2012 11:24 am

Drivers:

Valkyrie

MId Distance:

Wolf

Putters

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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby Radiomuted » Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:56 am

1.13 Omega SS
1.22 Omega SS
1.24 Omega SS
Medium X-Link Summit

QMS
Q Sentinel

1.4 JLS
1.9 QJLS

1.2 MOLF
1.2 SOLF
1.2 QOLF

...Been thinking about adding a putter with a little more stability, and something like a Viper or Banshee for an overstable fairway. Other than that, I really like the simplicity of the bag.
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby Cyclone2 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:44 pm

Anode
Comet
Buzzz
OLF
TL
Firebird
Beast
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby limonsock » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:18 pm

Drivers
Z-Nuke
Beat Star Xcal
Champ xcal
DX Banshee
Star Eaglex
beat dx eagle

Mids
2x SG MD1 (beat and new)
ESP comet

Putters
3 different Wizards
Current bag is sloppy yet fun; Judges, comet, wasp, FD's, river?, saint?, PD's, Flow, D1, Nuke, ...
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby DsmDisc » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:59 pm

Distance:
Pro Wraith newish (Primary Distance Driver)
Star Destroyer (Headwind Distance, sometimes fills in for the wraith if I'm feeling saucy.)
Pro Wraith worn (Long annys)

Fairway
Champ Teebird newish (Primary Fairway Driver)
DX Teebird newish (backup)
Star Eagle-L (If I need a little turn or a full anny)

Utility (overhands, heavy winds, etc.)
Champ Firebird

Mids
KC Roc (primary)
Star Roc (backup)
GL Fuse (anny approaches, or throwing from difficult conditions with limited range of motion.)

Putters
KC Aviar (primary, also used for approaches)
JK Aviar (if I need to anny put around obstacles)


In testing
Pure (Giving a beadless putter a try)
Flow (Good disc, but quite similar to my wraiths IME)
KC/JK/DX Aviars
Fuse | Roc
Eagle | Teebird | Firebird
Archon | Pro Wraith | Destroyer
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby mikes919 » Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:12 pm

Figure since I'm new around here I might as well post my bag. It's been 100% the same discs for probably 5 years so I'm a little behind the times on the distance discs. I have tried some new stuff but I prefer 400' and consistent to 430' and all over the place.

Z Flash 172 - overstable distance, headwinds
ESP Flash 170 - max distance (400 consistently, 430-450 max)
1st run ESP Flash 170 - distance turnovers, tailwind distance
CE Firebird FL 172 - main overstable disc, flicks, thumbers, trick shots
Champ Firebird 175 - super overstable
Champ Teebird 172 - staight stable with a hard finish
DX Eagle 174 - fairly beat, dead straight stable
CE Leopard 174 - tunnel shots, slight turnovers, go-to fairway driver
CE Leopard 172 - beat, turnovers and rollers
Champ Gator 175 - super overstable
2nd 1st run Z Buzzz 180ish - teebird-like flight
ESP Buzzz 180ish - dead straight stable
ESP Buzzz 180ish - slightly understable
DX Roc 180 - beat to death, super understable
E Wizard 175 - short drives
3 S Wizards 172-175 - 1 for upshots, 2 for putting
Flash - Firebird - Teebird - Leopard - Gator - Buzzz - Wizard
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby JR » Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:03 am

Not bad but a Flash to 400' means enough power to get many new bombers consistently farther. Excatly which one suits you the best is guesswork with this data because your hand size, grip strength and comfort with wide wings are mysteries. Which fast discs have you tried and what were your gripes about them?
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby mikes919 » Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:26 am

JR wrote:Not bad but a Flash to 400' means enough power to get many new bombers consistently farther. Excatly which one suits you the best is guesswork with this data because your hand size, grip strength and comfort with wide wings are mysteries. Which fast discs have you tried and what were your gripes about them?


I've only tried a few of the new really fast discs. Carried the Destroyer for a while but I wasn't happy with how they broke in. They only stayed in the sweet spot of stability for a little while and would get suddenly very flippy on me. Plus I was only getting marginally more distance over my flashes. I've also carried the Boss and Force for a little while. The Boss was noticably longer but I had timing issues with it. I think I never got comfortable with the wing width and I suffered from the occasional early or late release. 450+ isn't any help if its in the wrong direction 1/4 of the time. The Force I had was just ridiculously flat and overstable, couldn't find a spot for it. Just a faster version of my Z Flash.

I have average sized hands (I wear M or M/L gloves) and I guess I'm more comforable with small wings. I have a strong grip but I suppose it could be stronger. I don't have as much snap as my open-playing friends and that's probably partly to blame. I do have a very smooth release and am comfortable throwing wizards over 300'.
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby JR » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:14 pm

Was your Destroyer in Pro plastic? That does exactly what you describe as they wear. They gain some distance vs a new disc. Destroyers have a pretty strong fade and are slower than Bosses so they split players. I'm also in the camp for whom Bosses are longer than Destros and i don't have enough snap to keep either from fading out. The Boss is farther for me when that happens. I can't say for regular Quasars because the only one i have is atypically overstable thus short. Zero G Quasars fade the least of fast discs and has a low (relatively) power requirement so it doesn't need to mashed so hard. That helps in the grip issues too. Too bad they vary in shape like any disc with air inside the plastic and the durability is less than with regular Champion plastic.

For smaller rim and little fade Innova Beast is the longest of discs in that speed range. Going one notch faster and more fading Z Surge SS is also easy to throw controllably. Regular Surge then minding that FLX is more fading than Z thus shorter. The thing is that they are about as long and on average shorter than the Beast for me YMMV. Domey high outer edge Flows and Wraiths are the next step up in speed and with more fade and again i can't get them any farther than the Beast. The same goes even to the Destros. I need to go to speed 13 to get more distance than the Beast. Because the Beast is longer than the Flash it could work well because the grip is quite similar except the Beast is slightly thinner feeling height wise. Get the hint? :-D Sword is almost like the Destro so it may not be fun for you. IIRC the Flash and the Beast are the same wing width or within 1 mm.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby mikes919 » Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:49 pm

JR wrote:Was your Destroyer in Pro plastic? That does exactly what you describe as they wear. They gain some distance vs a new disc. Destroyers have a pretty strong fade and are slower than Bosses so they split players. I'm also in the camp for whom Bosses are longer than Destros and i don't have enough snap to keep either from fading out. The Boss is farther for me when that happens. I can't say for regular Quasars because the only one i have is atypically overstable thus short. Zero G Quasars fade the least of fast discs and has a low (relatively) power requirement so it doesn't need to mashed so hard. That helps in the grip issues too. Too bad they vary in shape like any disc with air inside the plastic and the durability is less than with regular Champion plastic.

For smaller rim and little fade Innova Beast is the longest of discs in that speed range. Going one notch faster and more fading Z Surge SS is also easy to throw controllably. Regular Surge then minding that FLX is more fading than Z thus shorter. The thing is that they are about as long and on average shorter than the Beast for me YMMV. Domey high outer edge Flows and Wraiths are the next step up in speed and with more fade and again i can't get them any farther than the Beast. The same goes even to the Destros. I need to go to speed 13 to get more distance than the Beast. Because the Beast is longer than the Flash it could work well because the grip is quite similar except the Beast is slightly thinner feeling height wise. Get the hint? :-D Sword is almost like the Destro so it may not be fun for you. IIRC the Flash and the Beast are the same wing width or within 1 mm.


I actually used to throw the Beast, quite a while ago. If I remember correctly, my main distance driver progression as I've played over the years has been Eagle > Valk > Beast > Orc > Wraith > Surge > Destroyer > Flash > Boss > Flash. I was throwing the Destroyers in Star plastic, the Boss in champion, Surges in ESP and Z.

I never found the high speed turn with the beast predictable enough for me, although I've had some of my longest throws ever with almost-new DX Beasts. I've occasionally gone back to all the old discs and done the "throw them all in a field and see which is longest" test and the Flash consistently comes up number one among the non-huge rimmed drivers. I think that it's actually because of the deeper rim, because I'm so comfortable throwing mids and putters for distance. I can push the Destroyer a little bit further, and the Boss a little bit further than that, but the consistency with both discs really suffers. I guess I'm not looking to totally replace the Flash, just to find something to really rip on those wide open holes where it's not the end of the world if I'm off-line by 30 feet.

Do the Nuke or Dominator have thinner rims than the Boss? I was thinking the Nuke would be next up on my list of discs to try out. Also maybe I need to go back and give the surge another look, technically it should be a longer disc than the Flash (I think).
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Re: What's in the bag 2012 edition

Postby JR » Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:36 am

Considering you had a pause in your active throwing it is possible that you haven't gotten Beasts that were manufactured in the last two years. They've become more HSS without adding to the LSS vs the new mold Beasts. DX Beasts beats to useless soon. The other plastics are fine. The Surge should be longer than the Flash but Mark Ellis says that some Flashes are longer than others IIRC and that is his main driver. Star Destroyers do break in but i've never heard of a quick breaking in. Nukes and Dominators both are as hard to grip than the Boss. If you want a sure fire longer than Flash disc without being the widest winged there is only one option beyond the Wraith which is a slightly faster and longer harder fading Surge. Westside Discs King in VIP plastic with a non drooping outside edge and a tall dome is the answer and even it has a fairly wide wing. Kings vary so much that you need to get it in person or order from a knowledgeable net store.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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