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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby UncleBrother2001 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:21 pm

Going back to the putt. On my Snake Strike just think about how Cameron Todd's putt looked and that is how mine almost looks like.

Went out with my friends today and helped them with a few things and was teaching about nose up and nose down. Making sure they knew what to look for.(this is on that long hole) One of them noticed on one of my Beasts throws that It looked like my Nose was up. And it did go quite high and probably about 375 or 380ft with a dumpy fade. Ok next up was my G-Star Beast and Champion Beast. I felt what I did wrong on my first throw so I was able to correct my next 2. Next 2 went just a little over 400ft. 402ft and 408ft according to his app on his phone. The best thing I had that nice straight forward Fade. So the real reason I was having so much fade was I was throwing a bit nose up,but didn't realize it til my buddy, who amazingly knew what to look for, told me I had just a tick of nose up. My next 3 times throwing that holes with all 3 Beasts were around that distance. Yeah I know 3 times,where the course is so short in the woods,we just play all the open holes so they can learn distance and control and I can work on more distance with my Beasts.

Oh and I threw my Lucid Judge 345ft according to his app. They were calling me an ass cuz I could chuck my putter farther than their drives. :lol:

Putting game was on fire today. Just missed 2 and it was due to my footing. it was a good disc golf day
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby BentElbow11 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:29 pm

Nose-up is a killer. Look into it, there are some obvious fixes.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby JR » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:57 am

BentElbow11 wrote:I have heard that about the snap sound and slipping. But, I've also heard it explained that the sound is from your fingers snapping together as the disc rips out of your hand. I equate good snap with properly executing the late hit. A whoosh sound usually means you're coming through too fast and strong-arming the throw.

The flat topped Beasts I've seen are in the new Innova champ plastic that looks like Opto. I've also seen flat topped Orcs and Monarchs in that same champion blend.

Snake Strike relies on a quick wrist action, the opposite of "slowly". Any form of putting will be garbage if your putting motion is slow.

Agree that champ Beasts fade very little and very late and are very long because of that. Not in the wind though.


A quick elbow straightening means that the wrist needs controllably moderate speed to function ok but sure a brisk wrist helps even more with a full power wrist leading to inconsistencies. 80-90% is good for both the elbow and the wrist.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby JR » Mon Apr 21, 2014 3:02 am

UncleBrother2001 wrote:Going back to the putt. On my Snake Strike just think about how Cameron Todd's putt looked and that is how mine almost looks like.

Went out with my friends today and helped them with a few things and was teaching about nose up and nose down. Making sure they knew what to look for.(this is on that long hole) One of them noticed on one of my Beasts throws that It looked like my Nose was up. And it did go quite high and probably about 375 or 380ft with a dumpy fade. Ok next up was my G-Star Beast and Champion Beast. I felt what I did wrong on my first throw so I was able to correct my next 2. Next 2 went just a little over 400ft. 402ft and 408ft according to his app on his phone. The best thing I had that nice straight forward Fade. So the real reason I was having so much fade was I was throwing a bit nose up,but didn't realize it til my buddy, who amazingly knew what to look for, told me I had just a tick of nose up. My next 3 times throwing that holes with all 3 Beasts were around that distance. Yeah I know 3 times,where the course is so short in the woods,we just play all the open holes so they can learn distance and control and I can work on more distance with my Beasts.

Oh and I threw my Lucid Judge 345ft according to his app. They were calling me an ass cuz I could chuck my putter farther than their drives. :lol:

Putting game was on fire today. Just missed 2 and it was due to my footing. it was a good disc golf day


Grats especially that Judge toss is impressive. You graduated to faster disc territory and need to check which are the ones that you can keep the nose down with. I mean 430-450' easily with the proper disc if you can maintain the nose down attitude.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby UncleBrother2001 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:03 pm

BentElbow11 wrote:Nose-up is a killer. Look into it, there are some obvious fixes.


Yeah nose up does suck,I am glad though my friend noticed me doing that. It's also good that they know what cause a disc to do that when nose up happens,it will help them along the way.

Also with me just doing a 3 step throw any kind of problem I have should be easily fixed. I find if my hips open up It's easier to fix too. I taught them about that one too yesterday. At first they didn't understand,but I should them what hips closed and hips open looked like then they finally got it. 8)

Oh and I got my Icon Patriot Today. :D It's Dayglo Orange and after my workout me and the guys are going out there to sling some plastic. Looking forward to the Patriot.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby UncleBrother2001 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:06 pm

JR wrote:
UncleBrother2001 wrote:Going back to the putt. On my Snake Strike just think about how Cameron Todd's putt looked and that is how mine almost looks like.

Went out with my friends today and helped them with a few things and was teaching about nose up and nose down. Making sure they knew what to look for.(this is on that long hole) One of them noticed on one of my Beasts throws that It looked like my Nose was up. And it did go quite high and probably about 375 or 380ft with a dumpy fade. Ok next up was my G-Star Beast and Champion Beast. I felt what I did wrong on my first throw so I was able to correct my next 2. Next 2 went just a little over 400ft. 402ft and 408ft according to his app on his phone. The best thing I had that nice straight forward Fade. So the real reason I was having so much fade was I was throwing a bit nose up,but didn't realize it til my buddy, who amazingly knew what to look for, told me I had just a tick of nose up. My next 3 times throwing that holes with all 3 Beasts were around that distance. Yeah I know 3 times,where the course is so short in the woods,we just play all the open holes so they can learn distance and control and I can work on more distance with my Beasts.

Oh and I threw my Lucid Judge 345ft according to his app. They were calling me an ass cuz I could chuck my putter farther than their drives. :lol:

Putting game was on fire today. Just missed 2 and it was due to my footing. it was a good disc golf day


Grats especially that Judge toss is impressive. You graduated to faster disc territory and need to check which are the ones that you can keep the nose down with. I mean 430-450' easily with the proper disc if you can maintain the nose down attitude.


Thanks man. I've thrown Wizards pretty far before and I've thrown a Pure pretty far,but a Judge just keeps going especially a Lucid Judge. Very easy putter to throw accurately and far at the same time.

It may be a bit before I go back to discs faster than a Beast/PD. I'm gonna work with these 2 for a while since I've just changed my steps that I use in my throw. So maybe by the end of the year or something I may do it,but as of now the Beasts/PD's are it for a while. :thumbup:
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby BentElbow11 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 2:21 pm

UncleBrother2001 wrote:
BentElbow11 wrote:Nose-up is a killer. Look into it, there are some obvious fixes.


Yeah nose up does suck,I am glad though my friend noticed me doing that. It's also good that they know what cause a disc to do that when nose up happens,it will help them along the way.

Also with me just doing a 3 step throw any kind of problem I have should be easily fixed. I find if my hips open up It's easier to fix too. I taught them about that one too yesterday. At first they didn't understand,but I should them what hips closed and hips open looked like then they finally got it. 8)

Oh and I got my Icon Patriot Today. :D It's Dayglo Orange and after my workout me and the guys are going out there to sling some plastic. Looking forward to the Patriot.


3 main nose-up culprits: 1) not pulling through on a level plane, 2) thumb too far from edge of disc, 3) pulling out of your drive early

When my hips open early, it's from rushing through the throw. Fortunately it's not very often.

Good luck with the Patriot!
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby UncleBrother2001 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 7:03 pm

BentElbow11 wrote:
UncleBrother2001 wrote:
BentElbow11 wrote:Nose-up is a killer. Look into it, there are some obvious fixes.


Yeah nose up does suck,I am glad though my friend noticed me doing that. It's also good that they know what cause a disc to do that when nose up happens,it will help them along the way.

Also with me just doing a 3 step throw any kind of problem I have should be easily fixed. I find if my hips open up It's easier to fix too. I taught them about that one too yesterday. At first they didn't understand,but I should them what hips closed and hips open looked like then they finally got it. 8)

Oh and I got my Icon Patriot Today. :D It's Dayglo Orange and after my workout me and the guys are going out there to sling some plastic. Looking forward to the Patriot.


3 main nose-up culprits: 1) not pulling through on a level plane, 2) thumb too far from edge of disc, 3) pulling out of your drive early

When my hips open early, it's from rushing through the throw. Fortunately it's not very often.

Good luck with the Patriot!


Thanks for those tips. I'll keep them in mind.

Patriot is very nice. It so reminds me of a Faster Leopard it's not even funny. Very good disc :thumbup:
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby BentElbow11 » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:21 pm

Sounds good on the Patriot...you've got me wanting to throw one.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby JR » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:10 am

Lost opportunity and nobody is getting younger. I would forge when the metal is hot. Carpe diem. Go east young man and grip and rip it :D
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby UncleBrother2001 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:18 pm

Yeah Patriot is a great disc. And thanks JR.

Well got some bad news. I have a slight roadblock ahead of me right now. Ended up spraining my index finger pretty badly. Hell it hurts to type this. So looks like I won't be throwing for a while...righthanded that is.

This is good time for me to get some more practice left handed. Me and my friends are gonna head out tomorrow and for the first time I'll be throwing lefthanded a whole round. Gonna learn forehand and get better backhand. Was downstairs earlier and was hitting putts pretty good left handed. I have more of a drop putt left handed so it is a bit different to get use to than right handed.

You wanna know the strange thing? It feels more natural if that makes sense. There are some left handers in my family. Heck maybe I'm left handed too. :lol: Probably not.

Seriously though. I have sprained my ankle a few times and I was out of commission for a while. I bet my Finger will take a lot longer to heal since I'm always lifting at work.

I'm actually in a way glad I hurt my finger,well not glad that happened,but glad in a disc golf way. I've been wanting to learn more with my left hand. Hey now I'll be learning like it's brand new all over again along side my friends. :D
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby BentElbow11 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:25 pm

Sorry to hear you hurt your finger, I PM'd you.

Sounds like the Patriot/Rival combo is working out really well. One thing I never liked about pairing the Leopard with a Teebird, is the Leopard is considerably shorter. Leopard/Eagle makes more sense to me. But then one's glidey and the other's pretty glideless.

Innova's fairway lineup could use some help, and Discraft's is really weak. They keep trying to bump up these hybrid midranges into fairway drivers(Stalker, Zombee, Glide) instead of designing a new FW driver...well, maybe the Mantis finally.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby JR » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:26 pm

Sorry to hear that. I lift at work too and it is a pain to mind the ergonomics each time but you gotta for dg and getting better. It can last half a year if it is bad when not stressed. I had troubles for two years.

I would write down in detail what you changed to gain distance so that you do not forget it waiting for the finger to heal.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby UncleBrother2001 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:03 am

BentElbow11 wrote:Sorry to hear you hurt your finger, I PM'd you.

Sounds like the Patriot/Rival combo is working out really well. One thing I never liked about pairing the Leopard with a Teebird, is the Leopard is considerably shorter. Leopard/Eagle makes more sense to me. But then one's glidey and the other's pretty glideless.

Innova's fairway lineup could use some help, and Discraft's is really weak. They keep trying to bump up these hybrid midranges into fairway drivers(Stalker, Zombee, Glide) instead of designing a new FW driver...well, maybe the Mantis finally.


Yes the Patriot Rival is combo is perfect man. Both will go pretty much the same distance which is what you need for a good Fairway combo.

Yeah I've tried both Discraft's and Innova's. And really Discraft just barely has a better lineup(combo wise)in that one with the Tracker/Express combo. I always thought those 2 were pretty good compliments to each other.
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Re: Uncle B's Bag

Postby UncleBrother2001 » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:09 am

JR wrote:Sorry to hear that. I lift at work too and it is a pain to mind the ergonomics each time but you gotta for dg and getting better. It can last half a year if it is bad when not stressed. I had troubles for two years.

I would write down in detail what you changed to gain distance so that you do not forget it waiting for the finger to heal.


Yeah everytime At work now I have to remind myself to keep the Index finger out of the way. When I forget, holy crap does it suck :lol:

I think where I'll be throwing lefthanded for a while I'll be taking the same thing I learned righthanded and putting it towards my lefthand. I did putting the same way too,but the results turned out a little different,but I'm still hitting chains so that is good.

After I clean house here in a few gonna get the guys together and play some disc golf. I'll let you guys know the results lefthanded.
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