Nicks Bag *****UPDATED 7/6/08****** Need Critique

[nickster9224]

im throwing about 280'-315' need some bag help with drivers especially.

1. Stable Control Drivers
Innova Champion 11x Teebird 170 newissh
Innova DX Teebird 175 new
Innova Pro Leopard 170g
Innova Champ Leopard 173g

2. Distance Drivers
Innova Star SL 168g
Innova Champion Starfire 164g
Innova Champion Orc 175
help me pick which one or ones

3. Understable Driver
Innova Champion Sidewinder 175g
Innova Champion Sidewinder 163g

4. Moderately Overstable Driver
Innova Star Destroyer 171g need replacement

5. Very Overstable Driver
need one

Mids:
Innova DX ROC 179g perfect
Innova DX ROC 180g new
Innova DX ROC 175g beat

Putters:
2x Dx Aviar PNA 175g
Champ Aviar 175

[garublador]

2. Distance Drivers
Innova Star SL 168g
Innova Champion Starfire 164g
Innova Champion Orc 175
help me pick which one or ones

I'd pick either the SL or Orc. A DX Starfire-X might be good if you don't mind buying a new disc.

4. Moderately Overstable Driver
Innova Star Destroyer 171g need replacement

I'd replace it with the Champ Starfire from above.

5. Very Overstable Driver
need one

If you don't have a preference already I'd go for the Z Pred.

[nickster9224]

does innova have something like a z pred

[garublador]

does innova have something like a z pred

Champ Firebird is the closest, but it's not as long.

[nickster9224]

im trying to trade for the zpred or a champ firebird. but im taking the destroyer out until i have more D

[nickster9224]

I bought a champ 170 monster to fill the very overstable slot in my bag.

[nickster9224]

1. Stable Control Drivers
Innova Star Teebird 171 new
Innova DX Teebird 175 new
Innova Pro Leopard 170g
Innova Champ Leopard 173g

2. Distance Drivers
Innova Champion Orc 175
Innova Champ Starfire 164 seasoned

3. Understable Driver
Innova Champion Sidewinder 175g
Innova Champion Sidewinder 163g

4. Moderately Overstable Driver
Innova Champ Starfire 171 New

5. Very Overstable Driver
Innova Star Teerex 175
Innova Champ Monster 170

Mids:
Innova DX ROC 179g perfect
Innova DX ROC 180g new
Innova DX ROC 175g beat

AUDITIONING:
175 Star Cro
175 Star Skeeter

Putters:
2x Dx Aviar PNA 175g 1 new 1 seasoned
Star Aviar 175

[garublador]

I should have picked up on this before, but you probably don't need both the Sidewinder and Leopard.

The Teerex is probably sitting somewhere between the Monster and Starfire so you might not need it, either.

[nickster9224]

im prolly gonna take the 175 sidewinder out. nut im auditioning the teerex.

[nickster9224]

1. Stable Control Drivers
Innova Star Teebird 171 newish
Innova DX Teebird 175 seasoning
Innova Champ Teebird 171 new
Innova Pro Leopard 170g
Innova Champ Leopard 173g

2. Distance Drivers
Innova Champion Orc 175
Innova Champ Valk 167


3. Understable Driver
Innova Champion Roadrunner 172 (should i ditch the sidewinder for this
Innova Champion Sidewinder 163g

4. Moderately Overstable Driver
Innova Champ Starfire 171 New
Innova Star destroyer 170 beat and tuned less stable (main sidearm)

5. Very Overstable Driver
Innova Star Teerex 175
Innova Champ Teerex 175 tuned straight
Innova star xcaliber 171 trying for sidearm D

Mids:
Innova DX ROC 179g perfect
Innova DX ROC 180g new
Innova DX ROC 175g beat

AUDITIONING:
175 Star Cro
175 Star Skeeter

Putters:
2x Dx Aviar PNA 175g 1 new 1 seasoned
Star Aviar 175

[nickster9224]

1. Stable Control Drivers
Star Teebird 171 newish
Champ Teebird 172 new
Champ Leopard 172g


2. Distance Drivers
Star Orc 168
Champ Valk 167
Champ Valk 173


3. Understable Driver
Innova Champion Roadrunner 172


4. Moderately Overstable Driver
Innova Champ Starfire 171 New
Innova Star destroyer 170 beat and tuned less stable (main sidearm)
Star Destroyer 169 new. scurve max d

5. Very Overstable Driver
Innova Star Teerex 175


Mids:
Innova DX ROC 179g perfect
Innova DX ROC 175g beat

AUDITIONING:
175 Star Cro
175 Star Skeeter

Putters:
2x Dx Aviar PNA 175g 1 new 1 seasoned
jk pro aviar 175

[discdawg]

IMO, drop the Leopard.

Your first 3 categories can pretty much be covered with 3 molds in various condition. Eagle (X or L), Teebird, Valk.

Can't really comment on 4 & 5.

Roc-good
PnA-good

[nickster9224]

damn i forgot to add i got a SEX 175 and i might take the leopard out i have a roadrunner and skeeter that turnover niceley

[frennis524]

dude just from experience...if you want to work on your D take out all the distance drivers. Use only Rocs and Dx Teebirds for drives...trust me I went from 275 in Feb to throwing up to 430, 370 consitently...use fairways...the gazelle would be even better

[garublador]

With the distances you throw I'd highly recommend minimizing overlap. Read the "The Reason I Push Disc Minimalism" sticky and the disc overlap article. The only reason you should have more than one disc in a slot would be if you have a Teebird and a more workable driver in the 1 slot, or you have beat versions of discs from other slots covering multiple slots (e.g. a stable distance driver and a beat very overstable driver both in the mod. overstable driver slot).

Right now you have two unique molds for understable drivers (Leopard and Roadrunner), two unique molds for distance drivers, two unique molds for moderately overstable drivers and you're auditioning for overlap in your mids.

I'll also second frennis524's advice. It will accelerate (or even jumpstart if you're stalled) your progress.