djalizwan wrote:Thanks for the advice guys. I'd kind of been looking at a Banshee for awhile, I may just have to pick one up now.
I've also thought about replacing the Sidewinder and the Beast with a Latitude 64 Vision. Thumbs up? Thumbs down?
Just got a yellow 174 Vision in Opto line today. Initial notes are that it fades significantly more than a Sidewinder and fights back harder and more consistently but can be thrown to stay annied all the way easily. Definitely a hyzer flip disc. Rolls far. For 330' I gave it about 25-30 degrees of initial hyzer and it still flipped to a couple of degrees of anny especially if giving more power. Immense hyzer requirements or low speed and high RPM for low lines are mandatory or it flips and crashes short.
Good for low power throws like standing still or new players. Forces plane preservation and likes any snap you can give it but forcing great nose down angle is a bad idea if giving any power>flip city.
Depending on what you want I'd say that it still is a safe bet to get Vision over Sidewinder. More predicatable than Sidewinder in Champ at any weight. No experience of other plastics in Sidewinder mold. At 174 Vision won't move as much sideways as my 148 Leopard in Star

By a long shot.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.