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Postby JR » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:37 am

Beetard wrote:You've gotten some good tips so far, but it seems like you need advice about the fundamentals of discs and throwing them. I myself learned a great deal about the fundamentals by reading the instructional articles located on the DGR main page.

Anything with a wide rim; any discs labeled "Distance driver" or "very long range driver" Like avengers, predators, surges are not what you should be throwing to learn backhand. The two reasons these type of discs are hooking way left is because they must be moving at a very high velocity to fly straight and you're probably throwing all hyzers; pullling from low to high.

Don't worry too much about the weight. Golf discs are all within 15grams of each other; 165 to 180g. The difference that weight makes is subtle. If you can't decide what disc you need to practice backhand after reading the articles, what you want to do is buy like 5 dx cobras. They're between a mid and a driver, straight flying when thrown with moderate power and have good glide. Hold the disc level and pull it chest-high in a line that is parallel to the ground. You'll get a nice straight flight.

Once you get the hang of these, try some fairway drivers.

Here's a link to Blake's disc selection article btw.

http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources ... disc.shtml


Actually golf discs I know of are between 105 and 200. I have a 105 Wizard and 200 is rule capped by the PDGA.

Blake wrote about recommended Roc weights for people driving to different distances. Out of the top of my head I recall a 380-390' thrower with drivers should get a 177 Roc. I think 300' throwers were suggested something like 172 and just guessing from that 250' sounds like a 166 Roc. If you decide to throw Buzzess I'd add a couple of grams at each stage. Buzzes can't take winds as well and the added weight helps with that.
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Postby cmlasley » Sat Aug 30, 2008 6:47 am

sweeper wrote:beating guys who throw 350 + but can't putt is funner! Except that they get down on themselves and that is sad.


LOL. Thanks. What a jewel of a quote. That made my day.
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Postby marmoset » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:02 am

JR wrote:Blake wrote about recommended Roc weights for people driving to different distances.


I've been looking for this but can't find it again... anyone know where it is?
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Postby Beetard » Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:58 pm

JR wrote:

Actually golf discs I know of are between 105 and 200. I have a 105 Wizard and 200 is rule capped by the PDGA.



Aww come on JR, I'm trying to keep it simple for him. Yeah there's 150 and less class discs and jaguars weight 200 grams, but all of the standard discs are like 160s to 175 or 180.
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Postby mark12b » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:47 pm

marmoset wrote:
JR wrote:Blake wrote about recommended Roc weights for people driving to different distances.


I've been looking for this but can't find it again... anyone know where it is?


i think this is it?
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Postby JR » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:44 am

mark12b wrote:
marmoset wrote:
JR wrote:Blake wrote about recommended Roc weights for people driving to different distances.


I've been looking for this but can't find it again... anyone know where it is?


i think this is it?


No I meant this written by Blake:

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weight recommendations based upon distance you average with drivers:

if you throw > 425' = 179-180g Rocs
if you throw 380'-424' = 177-178g Rocs
if you throw 330-379' = 174-176g Rocs
if you throw 275-329' = 171-173g Rocs
if you throw 225-274' = 168-170g Rocs
if you throw < 224' = 167g or lighter Rocs

basically, you can move upwards in weight for wind resistance purposes, but for your go-to rocs, you won't gain any stability by moving more than a gram or two outside of the ranges i have laid out... what will happen is that if you significantly heavier you will lose a substantial amount of D.

e.g. someone throwing 250' with drivers will get identical flight paths out of a 170g roc as a 180g roc but will probably throw the 180g about 25' shorter.

there's a ton of people that default to max weight rocs... but most haven't messed around across the entire spectrum of weights.
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Postby JR » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:01 am

I copy pasted after a ton of digging other numerical goodies from Blake in:

http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/vi ... 576#117576
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