Aaron_D wrote:I must disagree... Ive found my run up adds very little D unless it is literally me running up and even then it only seems to add maybe 10% to my overall D. Plus, footwork doesnt explain why my standstill drives and minimal runup were going the same D if not farther than my first throws.
Ah but look at the difference between the first throws and the last one to see the difference in quickness of the motions and the rate of acceleration when everything starts to fire. Like I wrote it's _both_ the legwork and the body control (and the related conscious guidance of the body) to move faster. To my eye there's a clear visible difference in firing speed of the muscles in favor of the last throw against the previous ones with the second last being fine as well but not as stellar as the final throw.
I'm also in the camp where the run up doesn't add up that much D even though I'm speed dominant. I stll can get some leg power and limited hip power after injury and lots of it prior to injury. From recent experience and visual proof in these vids I can say with great certainty that you have the potential for great hip action as evidenced by the final throw. But it's not just the hips that act differently in these vids. Just having battle with the same issues for the last two days I can say that I've had similar D swings as you from only sluggish body control of acceleration vs good acceleration. The way I overcame these problems was to yawn after drawing the lungs almost full then breathing almost fully out while trying to relax the muscles to sleeping state prior to the throw.
I suggest trying this relaxation drill and throwing with max acceleration late in the throw left pec hit vs extended toward the target hit while videoing and reviewing the differences visually and distance wise. Because snap based throws dominate on the courses and run up throws are rare and you are special case in that you have the leg and hip power to overcome the added power requirement of using the arm as a lever like you do. An extended arm like yours does need more power to drive it around the body equally fast as a close to the right pec form. Not everyone has that advantage of throwing far with both forms. According to the laws of physics concerning levers you should throw even farther promoting you to super distance category if you pulled it off with good form and timing.
Look at what masterbeato posted video wise today for comparison. He throws faaaaar. He does pull close to the chest and outdistances you by a lot. Notice how slowly he moves the elbow forward on Wizard and Roc throws? If you can look at the 2004 worlds DVD and check out Kristen Weidle then and now on youtube and note what Feldy and Climo say about not using the elbow on their DVD. That might illuminate things. In my view you have the nervous system and muscle quickness and power to go beyond 500' as long as you get a more efficient form. I don't consider your D to be indicative of perfect form in relation to your great physical prowess. I can only dream of such power and quickness but combining that to a more efficient form ceteris paribus (look it up if it ain't familiar) regarding quickness of motions should push you to well beyond 450'. Not many can reach so far with a straight arm as you do.
The vid that you posted with only slo mo shows just how early the disc departs your hand. That should be major concern and I think you know what it means. I'm struggling with grip locks and early releases now so I don't feel qualified about helping with that. Yet.