rll131 wrote:I've only been playing for two months and just figured out a few rounds ago from YouTube that I don't let go of the disc but to let it rip out. My question is with midrange shots and approaches sometimes the disc sticks to my fingers and just nails the ground in front of me. Am I suppose to let go on mid range shots and approaches let's say 150 ft to 50ft or do I just need to grip easier on shorter shots so it rips out smooth like on drives.
aDave wrote:YMMV. All of these are RHBH shots btw...
I switch up my grip depending on the distance and or "touch" ( usually nose angle ), of the shot.
100-200 ft shots I usually throw an mid 160 gram R-Pro Aviar PnA with a "birdie grip" this consists of a looser power grip with the middle finger off the rim, resting on the flight plate and pointed inwards toward the middle of the disc. In this shot, I will let the disc pull (rip) out of my hand. Messing around with the pressure applied by the ring and pinkie fingers to the inside of the rim as well as shortening your reach back ( among 100 other factors ) will help you learn to range it. There is a whole lot to work on here. If you ever want to get really good at this sport, don't neglect this range!
Under 100 to just outside of the circle, I switch up to a full on fan grip on the Aviar. I don't even have the pad of my index finger on the inner rim.
Instead I create a fulcrum with the rim of the disc pinched between the pad of my thumb and the finger joint at the end of my index finger.
The pad of my index finger hangs over the rim a bit, but never really applies any force to the inside of the rim. I try to get it to feel like a hinge that the disc pivots on.
The rest of my fingers are supporting the flight plate only. The throwing motion for this shot consists of a very short, slowly accelerating elbow extension toward the target that stops abruptly, followed by uncoiling my wrist and "popping" the disc off of the palm of my hand, forcing it to pivot around the fulcrum. Sometimes I pull it around my body, sometimes I push it out from my belly. Sometimes I'll use a Ryno if I need it to flex back more than nose up will allow for. It depends on the line. I actively release this shot, which means timing is super critical. When practicing it I mainly focus on the feel of the disc pivoting around my first finger and thumb fulcrum. I don't know for sure but I think that lots of folks call this a touch shot. I've drained a good many impossible seeming 50-70 foot anny putts with it, so I think it's worth a look. Works well with a Rattler or Whittler as well( probably any lightish lid really).
Inside the circle, I "spush" meaning that I've got the stance, weight shift and arm motion of a push putter with a good bit of spin added by my wrist right at the end. This consists of something similar to the 100-to the circle shot described above, but with the arm straight ( no elbow flex!), moving from ground up rather than parallel to it. In this shot I am actively opening my hand so that the disc leaves clean and flat, with no wobble. There's no fulcrum generating spin, just the wrist unloading and pop.
I've recently been developing a forehand anny touch shot, but I'm so inconsistent with it, it would be a waste of time trying to describe it.
Work on that too.
Yig wrote:rll131 wrote:I've only been playing for two months and just figured out a few rounds ago from YouTube that I don't let go of the disc but to let it rip out. My question is with midrange shots and approaches sometimes the disc sticks to my fingers and just nails the ground in front of me. Am I suppose to let go on mid range shots and approaches let's say 150 ft to 50ft or do I just need to grip easier on shorter shots so it rips out smooth like on drives.
Which Youtube video ?
I always let go of the disc. If I didn't, it would just be in my hand and I would look like a goof.
Occasionally I hold on to the disc too long (RHBH) and release the disc way too late/to the right. I guess I don't understand how the disc could just "rip out of my hand".
That said , I definitely use a firmer grip for my drive than ANY other time I throw. Drives I hold all fingers fairly tightly under the rim. Putts and short approaches I place my index finger on the rim/edge of the disc,middle finger towards the middle of the disc , ring finger just behind the middle, and pinky finger resting on the inside edge of the rim.
I don't know if this is the "correct" method or not , but that's how I do it for short approach shots and putts.
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