twmccoy wrote:Well Bill, it sounds like your arm is improving dramatically. What you need to do is learn how to throw hyzerflips if you want to keep throwing understable discs. Either that or retire your glide and get a Z buzz. Go out to a field some time with all your understable discs and practice some. Once you get a feel for each disc, you can switch from understable to overstable and not flip them.
BTW, try a sidewinder sometime. It is probably the longest disc period for people who throw 325' or so.
Thanks Terry! I've been trying to throw those hyzerflips and it's cool when it works. I've got a champ panther thats pretty much taking over for the glide. Seems to be more stable but still holds a beautiful right turn for most of the flight with minimal fade and responds well to a strong or light touch.
I did throw my Z buzz hyzerflipped today and parked it under the basket on #12 at expo. A pretty easy hole of course but that thing flipped up flat and shot straight at the basket. Used the uphill slope to stop it before it could fade. Very cool. I've been inspired by this site in general and have been trying to throw new lines on the old familair holes, like sidearms and hyzers on the short holes that I usually just throw straight. Great fun.
Did a comparison of my buzz and my roc and definitely see what folks are talking about. The roc is more versatile. It takes quite a bit of hyzer angle to keep the buzz from flipping flat. It just wants to go straight -----------> The roc, on the other hand, just holds it's angle and keeps on going.
I completely grok Blakes position about sticking with a couple discs but I seem to lose/find such a variety that I'd need to hold up a bank to keep them available so I'm taking a different approach for now. Instead of throwing everything flat and picking the disc that mimics the shot I need I'm trying to pick a less appropriate disc for each shot (that doesn't have water or such) and make it do what I want. Of course I have to stick with discs I've thrown quite a few times. If I don't have a clue how it flies when release flat I surely won't know what a different angle will do but it's kind of fun to see if I can make a z predator hold an anny line for most of it's flight. I can't, btw
I definitely want to get another sidewinder based on all the excellent recommendations although that pink eagle you were going to throw away seems to love me. It just goes right where I want and nice and long every time. I put it just past and down hill of (right below the tree line) the close basket placement on #12 at Paco the other day. That's like 350 or so I think and exactly where I wanted it in a heavy cross wind.
-grounded by flight - elevated by speed...