Here's a question about thumbers and tomahawks: I'm relatively good at throwing them, meaning I can get pretty good distance and accuracy with them most of the time. It seems recently though, I've had a lot more problems with rolling. One of my friends who throw thrumbers fairly often, his usually plop down, spin backwards a little bit, and will usually roll 10' at the most. For me, it seems like I can almost expect a 20' roll every time now, and this seems to be a more recent problem. Not too long ago, I threw a thumber approach shot, probably about 200' or so, figuring it would settle down and stay like how I mentioned with my friend's shot. I threw it, it landed about 15' from the pin, I turned around picked up my bag and went looking for another disc I threw. I totally would have lost my thumber disc if it weren't for the fact that I saw a Suburban slow down in the street running parallel to the park. Somehow, my disc had stayed on edge and rolled out away from the park, across a sidewalk, into the street, across the street, up over the curb of the sidewalk on the other side, across that sidewalk, and about 5' into deep grass on the other side...all in all about 60' of rolling, with no hill or anything to help it out. I know that particular case is one of those "defying the laws of physics" kind of rolls, but still, my thumbers seem to roll way more than they should. As far as I can tell, I haven't done anything to change my technique, but I just can't trust them like I used to. Anyone have any ideas?