Maxing out @ 300ft...

[masterbeato]

is one of the differences between 430' and 480' the release point is out further?

[Blake_T]

no.

if the towel swings around instead of snapping outward it means the acceleration isn't happening.

[Blake_T]

here's a video i encoded of Tomas Ekstrom from the 1993 worlds video. the jump cut editing makes it tough to really see all of the form, but this is the root of swedish technique.

[MrScoopa]

Ah ha! I like that observation with the towel Blake! Coincidently when you do that with enough speed you also get that clean sounding for lack of a better word "snap" - not the sluggish "whoosh". What is even neater is that you can do that with slower speed NOT get the sound but if the positions are right you can still see you are accelerating! The towel will point out and still smack the wall etc... Did I mention neat?

[Toomes]

Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.

[Mason65]

Is that the same Tomas of L64?? That hair is epic!

[Toomes]

Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtOM2oayviY

[black udder]

Try not turning your shoulders around until you get into the right pec area. You're coming around too far and opening up so you don't get the tight pull. You could practice slowly just doing right pec type stuff without turning your shoulder, but do it slow and not fully so you don't hyper extend your elbow.

Shoot for pulling hard out of the right pec position and stopping your elbow sooner. Looked like the elbow went right past your target.

[Blake_T]

Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.

you have no pause in rotation to trigger the elbow extension.

[keltik]

Is that the same Tomas of L64?? That head band is epic!

fixed that for ya

[Toomes]

Since I'm snowed in and needed something to do, I'm filming myself trying to snap a towel. I've always had trouble doing this and I want some suggestions on how to fix it. I'll get the high speed vids up soon.

you have no pause in rotation to trigger the elbow extension.

I'll work on this. It just feels unnatural to me to have the pause in my rotation. I understand why it should be there, I just don't feel fluid doing it.

[Blake_T]

you have fluidity going into the power zone, but not fluidity going through the power zone.

the goal of the towel drill is to get the towel to snap correctly, not to just use your standard throw. get the correct snap and trace it backwards (work from the hit back) to your form so that your form will yield the correct snap.

i figured at least 50% (probably more like 80%) would have the exact same problem.

[Toomes]

So, I should be able to snap a towel just doing the right pec drill, correct?

[Blake_T]

first try and just snap the towel.

gradually add more and more while still being able to get the towel to snap correctly.

[keltik]

eh what the hell....I cooked this up this morning with help from the Grand Yoda himself (Blake)
it's a diagram of the American style swing. i broke it down into six different positions.



1. turn the hips
2. turn the shoulders to perpendicular to the target & slide the disc to right pec area
3. stop the elbow and begin forearm rotation
4. skateboard kick the back leg & allow the heel to pivot
5. rotate shoulders and allow weight to come forward
6. follow through

I now accept all complaints and rotten tomatoes.