superq wrote:I can take a stable disc and release it hyzer -1 then it will flatten out and fly-2 then it will turn right -3 then it will finish left -4
discmonkey42 wrote:This is also a really useful shot to learn as it allows you to make the disc turn right at a predesignated point. the amount of initial hyzer determines how far the disc will go straight before finally getting turned over right. Very useful when you need to have your disc go (just one example)out straight for 200-300' and then turn right but not finish going right. And Blake is right, the only non DX disc I can get to do this reliably is my SOLS. The other discs that do this 4 direction flight for me with any reliability are dx roc, x buzz gt, OLS, dx valk, beat dx teebird, and an old x xs I have. This is also the shot I throw for people who don't unerstand the complexitiy of this sport....It is a whole lot more than just throwing a frisbee and impresses the hell out of most non-dg'ers.
I am at 23 feet above sea level so, as TDK described in the "Playing at Different Elevations" thread, the effect is greatly enhanced.
Here's what happens for me:
Because it's not too long of a course(average hole is about 240'), I'm usually just using an aviar putter.
I aim about 6 feet right of the pin, and release with a pretty steep hyzer. The disc leaves my hand and starts curving left for the first part of its flight (10%-35% of total flight depending on release angle and snap). Then, the disc flips up flat and rides straight for about 40 - 50% of its total flight. Then it turns past straight and tracks right for most of the remaining distance, with a very small hyzer finish to the left.
I use a similar shot with a Sidewinder on a longer hole, but with a less pronounced turn to the left initially out of my hand.
Blake_T wrote:a hyzer flip = a throw that starts with a hyzer angle and flattens and usually (but not always) turns.
a four-direction flight:
disc thrown hard with hyzer to the RIGHT.
the hyzer angle "bites" and pushes right to LEFT.
disc goes left, flattens, turns to the RIGHT
disc pans left to right and flexes back LEFT.
others have described three-direction flight.
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