Jeronimo wrote:Why on earth would you want a single finger as the crux of all your snap?
Because of physics? If i was to slow your throw down and focus the video in on your grip, the disc should rip off of your hand at a single point. I think you might want to do a refresher: http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/articles/gripittoripit.shtml#ripvslock
Quote From Article: The primary focus of the grip should be to achieve the greatest amount of force on the disc at the rip point. The rip occurs when the disc overpowers the rip finger and forces its way out of the hand. Since acceleration and velocity pull the disc out of the hand, the stronger your rip point, the greater force will be applied to the disc as it launches from the hand. The distance potential available here is also closely related to snap and follow through, but all things equal, more rip force will always translate into more distance than less rip force.
[EDIT: Were you maybe misunderstanding what JHern was talking about? When he talked about just using the 2 fingers, it was to build up the "Feel" of what the pivot on those fingers is like.]
Jeronimo wrote:I have no doubt at this point that I fully understand the concept of "snap". I am just still at the point where my body doesn't inherently "know" how to reproduce it.
Is that like understanding Calculus but not knowing how solve math problems? If you are using the "Pound The Hammer" techniques and you are getting the "Feel" then you should not have issues with snap unless you really didnt perform the technique or due to grip slip, and if the latter is the case then you need to continue working with the techniques, but change your grip to something that feel likes its super solid grip.
[Blake; could you confirm/deny/clarify this? The only thing i can think of that would hinder the "Hammer Pound" would be grip slippage, assuming that someone is really "Pounding The Hammer" properly.]
That is the sheer genius of using a concept built on "Feel" versus thinking through the whole process technique by technique and step by step. Its much easier now that you should "Feel" a certain sensation when throwing, versus scratching your head wondering what part of your laundry list of steps to take broke down. What would you rather do? Count down a list like your launching the Space Shuttle down at NASA while trying to do a run up, or concetrate on just "Pounding The Hammer"? When you "Pound The Hammer" your body automatically causes all those things you use to think about to happen automatically in order for you to get the sensation or "Feel" of the "Hammer Pound". I know this is a very esoteric idea but as you think it, your body does it. If i think of a global idea such as the "Hammer Pound" then my body makes it happen. If i think pivot, weight shift, pull close, etc etc etc, i have just overloaded my brain, and more than likely forgotten something, and by that point im off line or caused some other problem to occur.
If you dont "Feel" it, your not doing it right. Work on building up muscle memory via repetition of what the "Feel" is. Trust me. I have only been using this thing for maybe a week total, and its almost second nature at this point. That and Im so stoked for what its done with my accuracy and consistency, that I dont want to do anything but play disc golf and "Feel" that sensation so I can watch my discs just bomb. Trust me, its addicting. When you finally have your AH-HA moment, im sure you will be MIA from this site for a few days or at least until you want to come back and brag.
Jeronimo wrote:The biggest concept helper was pre-empting my grip. Gripping hard before the momentum of the disc was too much for my weak fingers to respond to. i.e. "slip"
You should be gripping the disc very loosely up until the very last moment. You only grip the disc as hard as needed to keep it from falling out of your hand. You can find the timing needed for this by doing the over hand hammer pound using the fake grip. When you "Feel" the disc trying to rip out of that grip, that is when you tighten your grip as hard as you can. Once you have the "Feel" of that, move over to doing the backhand hammer pound using the fake grip.
Once you get that "Feel" down, change over to your backhand grip and rinse and repeat until it bleeds (an exaggeration, but you must "Pound" these techniques into yourself until they become second nature.)