Late release

Information, Questions, Discussion about Throwing Mechanics and Technique

Moderators: Timko, Solty, Frank Delicious, Blake_T, Fritz, Booter

Late release

Postby cschwab » Wed May 17, 2006 8:33 pm

Over the last few weeks it is almost like I've forgotten how to throw. I am throwing all of my shots to the right unless I aim drastically to the left with my right shoulder. My shots are also all being released with some degree of hyzer despite a conscious to release the disc flatand more often than not higher than I intend. I have somehow forgotten how to throw a straight shot or with any control and it is incredibly frustrating. I am having this problem with all my shots, but the hyzer release and height problem is lessen when throwing my mids and putters. However no matter what the shot I am throwing it to the right.

I know this is a pretty vague description of my problem, but I am really frustrated with the regression over the past month of so. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I may try and take a video tomorrow that I can post too.
cschwab
Noob
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Postby Blake_T » Wed May 17, 2006 8:43 pm

99% certain you are starting your pull before your plant foot hits the ground.

rhythm should be more like 1-2-3-pull

yours is likely more like 1-2-pull/3.
Blake_T
Super Sekret Technique Jedi
 
Posts: 5824
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 12:44 am
Location: Minneapolis

Postby cschwab » Thu May 18, 2006 6:34 am

Does 1,2,3 refer to the steps of the x-step?
cschwab
Noob
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Postby Blake_T » Thu May 18, 2006 7:38 am

yes.
Blake_T
Super Sekret Technique Jedi
 
Posts: 5824
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 12:44 am
Location: Minneapolis

Postby cschwab » Thu May 18, 2006 8:20 am

Thanks for the reply.

I'm going to go out and pay attention pulling through once my plant foot is down after work today.

When my plant foots hits the ground should I be at the maximum point for my reach back and begin to pull at that moment?
cschwab
Noob
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Postby Blake_T » Thu May 18, 2006 8:41 am

that's not overly critical.

some pros actually do not peak their reach back until after their foot hits the ground.

about 70% of players start their pull too early.

if you wait until your legs start the rotation you will have to start coming forward.

too late of a start will lead to an early release.
Blake_T
Super Sekret Technique Jedi
 
Posts: 5824
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 12:44 am
Location: Minneapolis

Postby cschwab » Thu May 18, 2006 12:55 pm

Of the videos on the site, whose would be a good example of someone whose reachback peaks while they are planting their foot as oppose to someone's whose peaks after the plant?
cschwab
Noob
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Postby Blake_T » Thu May 18, 2006 6:55 pm

nope. just know i've seen it when watching dg dvd's.

i've worked with it a few times. it helps timing a bit but is less consistent in terms of accuracy.
Blake_T
Super Sekret Technique Jedi
 
Posts: 5824
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 12:44 am
Location: Minneapolis

Postby cschwab » Fri May 19, 2006 8:10 am

Slowing down my run up and making sure to pull after my foot was planted helped somewhat there were still problems with my throw. I was still having difficulty with accuracy and somehow have lost a good deal of snap over the month.

Its back to the practice field after work today.
cschwab
Noob
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Postby Blake_T » Fri May 19, 2006 8:47 am

two things.

1) it sounds like you aren't getting visual contact before the rip and finishing focused down the target line.

2) it sounds like you may have the disc too far off your body as it comes through on the pull.
Blake_T
Super Sekret Technique Jedi
 
Posts: 5824
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 12:44 am
Location: Minneapolis

Postby discmonkey42 » Fri May 19, 2006 10:08 am

Unfortunately, this happens to me every couple of weeks. When it does, the thing that always snaps me out of it is to do field practice with my mids throwing for accuracy only. Somehow doing this brings my snap back too. Works every time (for me).
42
discmonkey42
Fairway Surgeon
User avatar
 
Posts: 704
Joined: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:44 am
Location: In my own way
Favorite Disc: OLF

Postby cschwab » Fri May 19, 2006 6:18 pm

I feel like I do a pretty good job of focusing on the target and visualizing my line. I don't aim at the basket and instead pick a point I want the disc to pass through before it begins to fade.

I was experimenting yesterday and found my shots were slightly better actually when I pulled through a little bit farther away from my chest than I was for some reason.

So i'm not really sure what the problem is. If I can get a video taken of a few of my shots would you mind looking at them and giving me some advice?

Thanks
cschwab
Noob
 
Posts: 72
Joined: Sat Apr 15, 2006 12:41 pm

Postby Rooster » Fri May 19, 2006 8:06 pm

i know this is off topic but cschwab are you schwab from the merto detriot area?
Rooster
Fairway Surgeon
User avatar
 
Posts: 528
Joined: Thu May 11, 2006 7:03 am
Location: 'Burbs of tha D

Postby Blake_T » Fri May 19, 2006 10:57 pm

yah i can take a look at video.

sounds like you probably aren't getting your weight forward as well...
Blake_T
Super Sekret Technique Jedi
 
Posts: 5824
Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 12:44 am
Location: Minneapolis


Return to Technique

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests