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Ways to increase height in drives

Postby alphafrolfer » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:09 pm

I am attempting to increase my distance and one problem i have noticed is that my drives are all fairly low. I'm having trouble getting nose down drives that are more than 8-10 ft off the ground. When I attempt to flattne a hyzer sometimes it works and I get a bit more height but i doesn't go as far as my normal drives.

Any suggestions on how to increase height to increase distance?

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Postby Blake_T » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:32 pm

1) aim higher.

2) commit to hyzer/anhyzer angle (easier to get nose down this way)

3) learn to do it with slow plastic.
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Postby alphafrolfer » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:45 pm

Blake_T wrote:1) aim higher.


When you say aim higher do u mean have my pull threw be more shoulder level then waist level or what? I'm confused in that it seems likeif I aim higher it would cause a nose up release.
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Postby Blake_T » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:11 pm

pick a focal point. e.g. imagine a hoop 50' from the tee that you are trying to throw through. for a higher shot, put the imaginary hoop higher up. the body will naturally compensate.
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Postby Jwt4412 » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:35 am

Blake,

Please explain how to get more height or aiming higher while keeping the nose down. This is the hardest thing for new players to visualize.

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Postby Blake_T » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:14 am

the disc plane is independent of the trajectory of the throw.

if they were not, every nose down throw would be thrown downwards
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Postby Bradley Walker » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:13 am

Jwt4412 wrote:Blake,

Please explain how to get more height or aiming higher while keeping the nose down. This is the hardest thing for new players to visualize.

Thanks.


The grip is still a nose down grip (no angle between the arm and disc plate).

The pull line should be from low to high. Easy. It is still flat to itself, just LAUNCHED LIKE HOWITZER. If you want a cannon to go higher and further, you tilt the barrel back right?

Get yourself an Aviar and practice LAUNCHING the disc into the wind and see if you can get it to come back like boomerang. You should pull from knee level to above your forward shoulder IN A STRAIGHT LINE like a flat throw (just tilted back).

This is one of the best shots in golf. The high putter. I throw mine 350' dead straight if I have the vertical room. I use these shots to go OVER trees, not AROUND trees.

The shot is MISSING in a lot of modern guy's games.
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Postby mdabbs » Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:31 am

I don't see how you throw it both like a boomerang and 350 feet. You mean 350 up? If so how is that useful because I haven't seen too many 350 foot trees at my local disc golf course? I am just not picturing what you are saying.
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Postby Bradley Walker » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:47 am

mdabbs wrote:I don't see how you throw it both like a boomerang and 350 feet. You mean 350 up? If so how is that useful because I haven't seen too many 350 foot trees at my local disc golf course? I am just not picturing what you are saying.


I am sorry, I was not clear.

You PRACTICE throwing high by throwing into the wind and trying to make it come back.

I do not throw ACTUAL drives that high.

A putter would be thrown at about twice the height of fast drivers.

If I could throw 350 feet up, I would be a bad mutha...

I throw drives that peak at say 80' over trees (this is a guess).
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Postby Thatdirtykid » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:46 am

80s a pretty high number, especially for a non inverted throw. (drives in D competitions rarely if ever would fly that high, and those guys can put some height on a disc)
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Postby Bradley Walker » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:37 am

Thatdirtykid wrote:80s a pretty high number, especially for a non inverted throw. (drives in D competitions rarely if ever would fly that high, and those guys can put some height on a disc)


Yahhhh.... I am just guessing. At least 60'. I sometimes throw putters as high some guys throw grenade throws.

I know there is one hole at my home course that I parachute at least 80 feet over tall trees. That throw only goes maybe 180- 200 feet linearly, though...

I would a standard putter throw apexs at 30-40 feet. Even more downwind if I get a good launch.
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Postby Blake_T » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:52 pm

(drives in D competitions rarely if ever would fly that high, and those guys can put some height on a disc)


depends a lot on the disc and the altitude they are throwing at, as well as wind conditions.

in the era of slower drives, 80+' of height was pretty common when throwing at high elevation (several world records were set in fort collins).

you'll still see people go that high if they are throwing anhyzer technique.

most discs nowadays cater to hyzer technique but you'll usually see them go higher than 60' unless it's a wraith, but i've only seen two wraith throws break 600'.
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Postby Jwt4412 » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:54 pm

Not trying to be funny...

How do u find a disc after you threw it 600'?
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Postby Thatdirtykid » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:51 pm

lol :lol:
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Postby rehder » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:52 am

I cant understand how you can aim higher and still keep nose down on the disc. When I hold my arm horizontally in front of me, I can hold the disc nose down maybe 10-15 degrees at most. Now If I where to hold my arm highe for a higher release I wouldnt be able to keep the nose down anymore. Maybe nosedown in relation to my arm but not nose down in regards to the ground. What gives Dr. Blake?
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