180+degree, nosedown/right Knife hyzer?

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180+degree, nosedown/right Knife hyzer?

Postby JacksWeather » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:07 pm

Where would it go? To the right? Straight up and down? What way would it fade? Towards 180 or away from 180? Imagining this shot slightly boggles my mind, and spikes my curiosity even more.
Today seems like a good day to toss a disc or two.
The one for hyzer-flipping, turning over right on que.
I try to throw just like that, but sometimes I really suck.
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Postby ParanoidPiranhasDave » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:20 pm

I'm guessing it would still spike about the same upwards, flip slightly, and have a flatter descent...maybe causing it to sail further out left? That's my guess.

I've flipped up some steep hyzers with some unintentional off axis torque or by not flicking my wrist enough, and that's about how they go.
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Postby Weebl » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:56 am

I'm guessing you mean 90 degrees. 180 degrees would be throwing a disc upside down. If it indeed in verticle but nosedown, then as long as it's a overstable disc (Firebird, Speed Demon) it will go straight up, and straight down.
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Postby JacksWeather » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:58 am

hmm yes i did mean 90-100 degrees with nose down/right too.
Today seems like a good day to toss a disc or two.
The one for hyzer-flipping, turning over right on que.
I try to throw just like that, but sometimes I really suck.
Some say I need to get the axing, chalk it up to bad luck.
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Postby jgarcia9102 » Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:49 pm

I think ive heard this called a 'skammahawk' or something along those lines. Someone on the board here throws them, im sure they will be around soon enough to explain them..
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Postby presidio hills » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:20 pm

i haven't thrown a skamahawk before but the idea makes sense. the disc ends up getting released the same orientation as a thumber and spinning in the same direction as a thumber... essentially on a super extreme backhand anhyzer line.

i assume it flies like a thumber but it doesn't make it all the way around... it just flips upside down and glides to the ground, like a pancake.

pancake is a tomohawk that only flips half way and lands upside down.
hope i didn't lose anyone there.

not sure when the skamahawk can reach things a thumber or tomohawk can't, though...
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Postby Roc_n_Roll » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:26 pm

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Postby JacksWeather » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:28 pm

Thats 90+ degrees of anhyzer, i was talking hyzer. Which would be the same thing as a tomahawk only opposite direction of spin.
Today seems like a good day to toss a disc or two.
The one for hyzer-flipping, turning over right on que.
I try to throw just like that, but sometimes I really suck.
Some say I need to get the axing, chalk it up to bad luck.
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Postby Weebl » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:36 pm

If it's a flippier disc, it will corkscrew so that it goes upside down and possibly helix more. Think of a tomahawk with an Epic that's tuned to be very flippy...
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Postby Thatdirtykid » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:28 pm

JacksWeather wrote:Thats 90+ degrees of anhyzer, i was talking hyzer. Which would be the same thing as a tomahawk only opposite direction of spin.


and skamahawks are inverted (thumb on bottom of disc) a grenade is thrown more like a hyzer at 90 degrees but also inverted. (btw, I am probably the one mentioned who uses skamahawks, I use them for right to left w/ more up and down than a knife hyzer, if you throw one straight up you can clear a 40' tree feet infont of you, then the disc dies off left)
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Postby Roc_n_Roll » Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:58 pm

If you actually stop and look at the video and break it down frame by frame. Brian is gripping the disc normally (not inverted). So is this a skamahawk or not? Just curious
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Postby Thatdirtykid » Sat Jul 29, 2006 12:54 pm

hes the one who made the shot isnt he, so I would say thats the real thing, and I throw inverted anhyzer grenades ;-)
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