Disc Golf Tips and Technique: Driving with Dan Beato (Video)

[masterbeato]

my plan this summer was to make a new video, go over everything again and touch up on it and create some new things to explain that i have wanted to do that Blake has taught me, and do it with a good quality camera, and put it on a bunch of DVD's and have Charlie at Gotta Go Gotta Throw sell them so people can have a good copy for their home TV.

nice quality!

[patdabunny]

lol its all good i can understand.

Good, I was starting to worry about my brain after that post...

stopping the elbow is something that just happens when the elbow is pushed out so far to where it cant go any further anymore.

punching towards the target is on any upshot or short drive, or however long you can throw it. in order to throw far, you cannot throw that way since throwing for power is more of a circular motion.

I tried this today and was nearly putting in 100' shots, just like you said. I also found that just by extending your wrist (the handshake position or making your thumb parallel with your forearm) adds a HUGE amount of snap and spin to the disc. When I get it right, it adds ~75' to a drive and I can get mids out to 250' or so (give or take some) with zero run up! I was shocked to say the least.

BTW, I "discovered" the putting technique you have your vid on several years ago, except that I lift my arm somewhat higher than you or Blake T does. I went to try it and found it was what I was already doing! Cool!

Daniel

[josser]

punching towards the target is on any upshot or short drive, or however long you can throw it. in order to throw far, you cannot throw that way since throwing for power is more of a circular motion.

I have to say that this was a point that I missed. That the punching toward the target was meant for upshots.

[masterbeato]

punching towards the target is on any upshot or short drive, or however long you can throw it. in order to throw far, you cannot throw that way since throwing for power is more of a circular motion.

I have to say that this was a point that I missed. That the punching toward the target was meant for upshots.

i will be touching up on that in the new video coming out.

[GunnerUnitas]

great idea Dan!! also great marketing idea for future sponsors as well.
If ur playing am nats and are gonna be in ohio for worlds, I would love to play some
golf w/ya and field work too, I really love analyzing and breaking down form. if you need a place
to stay for am nats let me know, i live an hour away, but my aunt works for hilton so i will have a suite for the
weekend and your more then welcomed to crash. trying to keep good energy around me that weekend!

[masterbeato]

great idea Dan!! also great marketing idea for future sponsors as well.
If ur playing am nats and are gonna be in ohio for worlds, I would love to play some
golf w/ya and field work too, I really love analyzing and breaking down form. if you need a place
to stay for am nats let me know, i live an hour away, but my aunt works for hilton so i will have a suite for the
weekend and your more then welcomed to crash. trying to keep good energy around me that weekend!

Thanks man!

yeah that sounds awesome, i have been trying to look for a place to crash, finding hotels etc..

i would be glad to work with you out in the field for am nats and play practice rounds with you. keep in touch!

[josser]

I have a question about accelerating from the front pec and this seems like the best place for this question. I just spent a couple of hours re-reading many of the technique threads and this is still a point of confusion for me.

When accelerating from the front pec should it feel like I am trying to
(A) Treat my elbow like a stationary pivot point and whip my forearm (with disc attached) around this point, or
(B) Pull the disc as hard as I can directly at the target?

In some threads it sounds more like (A) is what I should be picturing and in others (like the snap 2009 thread) it sounds like (B) is what I should be picturing. (A) would seem to have much more potential in terms of leverage, and (B) would seem to accomplish more in terms of coiling and uncoiling of the wrist. I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to get my shoulder to pause (thanks to Dan for recently bringing this to my attention, and Blake for having brought it to my attention in the fall) and I'm trying to get a consistent mental picture in my head for what I am trying to do with the disc from the front pec onward.

[masterbeato]

I have a question about accelerating from the front pec and this seems like the best place for this question. I just spent a couple of hours re-reading many of the technique threads and this is still a point of confusion for me.

When accelerating from the front pec should it feel like I am trying to
(A) Treat my elbow like a stationary pivot point and whip my forearm (with disc attached) around this point, or
(B) Pull the disc as hard as I can directly at the target?

In some threads it sounds more like (A) is what I should be picturing and in others (like the snap 2009 thread) it sounds like (B) is what I should be picturing. (A) would seem to have much more potential in terms of leverage, and (B) would seem to accomplish more in terms of coiling and uncoiling of the wrist. I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to get my shoulder to pause (thanks to Dan for recently bringing this to my attention, and Blake for having brought it to my attention in the fall) and I'm trying to get a consistent mental picture in my head for what I am trying to do with the disc from the front pec onward.

to get the snap down and timing down is (B) because when it is a full throw, where the disc is positioned in this drill is where you should be accelerating through.

you start at the beginning of the power zone in this drill, and the point is to throw as hard as humanly possible because that is how you do it, it just helps doing this drill since it is really hard to control speed and timing on a reach back when you are learning it.

basically this drill is to help you get to that position and accelerate it at the same time.

[josser]

to get the snap down and timing down is (B) because when it is a full throw, where the disc is positioned in this drill is where you should be accelerating through.

you start at the beginning of the power zone in this drill, and the point is to throw as hard as humanly possible because that is how you do it, it just helps doing this drill since it is really hard to control speed and timing on a reach back when you are learning it.

basically this drill is to help you get to that position and accelerate it at the same time.

So if you start through the front pec drill sequence with the stand still ones and no reachback, you still try to pull as hard as you can at the target (B) instead of trying to whip the disc around about your elbow (A)? I have been doing (A) and not (B) and that is perhaps part of my issue with not having a shoulder pause. To the field!

(Thanks Dan)

[bcsst26]

I have a question about accelerating from the front pec and this seems like the best place for this question. I just spent a couple of hours re-reading many of the technique threads and this is still a point of confusion for me.

When accelerating from the front pec should it feel like I am trying to
(A) Treat my elbow like a stationary pivot point and whip my forearm (with disc attached) around this point, or
(B) Pull the disc as hard as I can directly at the target?

In some threads it sounds more like (A) is what I should be picturing and in others (like the snap 2009 thread) it sounds like (B) is what I should be picturing. (A) would seem to have much more potential in terms of leverage, and (B) would seem to accomplish more in terms of coiling and uncoiling of the wrist. I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to get my shoulder to pause (thanks to Dan for recently bringing this to my attention, and Blake for having brought it to my attention in the fall) and I'm trying to get a consistent mental picture in my head for what I am trying to do with the disc from the front pec onward.

What about a normal drive one with a reach back. What are you trying to do once the disc is around the right pec? I too feel like (A) is being talked about but is this right and if so when should this happen compared to (B). I can see how one would do either or some of each. Wouldn't one pause the elbow to start the chop which would make the elbow more of a pivot point. At this point should one pull the disc toward the target?

[MrScoopa]

The elbow is like a pivot, but it only stops long enough to transfer the power your lower body generated. When my forearm is already being slung out from the elbow pause then I start to pull hard. Its like I am combining the power of my lower body with the power I do have in my arm. I am getting great results with this even from just a standstill.

[masterbeato]

to get the snap down and timing down is (B) because when it is a full throw, where the disc is positioned in this drill is where you should be accelerating through.

you start at the beginning of the power zone in this drill, and the point is to throw as hard as humanly possible because that is how you do it, it just helps doing this drill since it is really hard to control speed and timing on a reach back when you are learning it.

basically this drill is to help you get to that position and accelerate it at the same time.

So if you start through the front pec drill sequence with the stand still ones and no reachback, you still try to pull as hard as you can at the target (B) instead of trying to whip the disc around about your elbow (A)? I have been doing (A) and not (B) and that is perhaps part of my issue with not having a shoulder pause. To the field!

(Thanks Dan)

correct

[masterbeato]

I have a question about accelerating from the front pec and this seems like the best place for this question. I just spent a couple of hours re-reading many of the technique threads and this is still a point of confusion for me.

When accelerating from the front pec should it feel like I am trying to
(A) Treat my elbow like a stationary pivot point and whip my forearm (with disc attached) around this point, or
(B) Pull the disc as hard as I can directly at the target?

In some threads it sounds more like (A) is what I should be picturing and in others (like the snap 2009 thread) it sounds like (B) is what I should be picturing. (A) would seem to have much more potential in terms of leverage, and (B) would seem to accomplish more in terms of coiling and uncoiling of the wrist. I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out how to get my shoulder to pause (thanks to Dan for recently bringing this to my attention, and Blake for having brought it to my attention in the fall) and I'm trying to get a consistent mental picture in my head for what I am trying to do with the disc from the front pec onward.

What about a normal drive one with a reach back. What are you trying to do once the disc is around the right pec? I too feel like (A) is being talked about but is this right and if so when should this happen compared to (B). I can see how one would do either or some of each. Wouldn't one pause the elbow to start the chop which would make the elbow more of a pivot point. At this point should one pull the disc toward the target?

you should always pull the disc toward the target.

that being said, the regular reach back throws (considering you have already mastered the disc position in the power zone), throwing hard at the end indicates you are accelerating through that power zone, but trying to add a reach back the important key is to gradually do it. work on it and it will sink in your brain that "no matter how short or long my reachback is, i will always hit this position because thats when i know i have to throw hard."

[JHern]

The elbow is like a pivot, but it only stops long enough to transfer the power your lower body generated. When my forearm is already being slung out from the elbow pause then I start to pull hard. Its like I am combining the power of my lower body with the power I do have in my arm. I am getting great results with this even from just a standstill.

This makes better sense to me. I don't see why it isn't A+B, in the current nomenclature. Both are good. Both are power.

Dan: why does it have to be A or B, and not A and B?

[MrScoopa]

(B) Pull the disc as hard as I can directly at the target?

It may be saying the same thing. If you are pulling the disc directly at the target your elbow would have to be stationary for at least a second. Else you'll be doing one of my classics and come around to fast with the lower body and actually take power away from the throw!