In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worlds

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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Star Shark » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:06 pm

There's no smoking at any of the parks in the Santa Cruz area so that applies to spectators, spotters, officials, picnicers, the kids on the swingset...
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Luke13 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 7:07 am

I didn't have the patience to read all seven pages of this thread, so I'm not sure if this has been covered yet or not. Soooo,


1. AGAINST SMOKING In general, if it bothers you to go 4-5 hours without a cigarette, that, of course, isn't a good reason for not banning smoking during events. Most folks are fairly courteous about it when they smoke, but if you can smell it all, you are getting second-hand smoke.

2. NOT AGAINST SMOKING --Depending on the hole and the course, it's pretty easy for someone to smoke a cigarette without being around the rest of the group. They aren't hurting anyone (except possibly themselves), and if they are paying attention to when their shot is, etc, it shouldn't be a problem.

3. AGAINST SMOKING---It's a drug that affects mood! No one ever brings this up! It can very much affect how calm you are etc, and by doing so affect your game. (I would assume the affects are usually negative in a tournament, since it's harder to just light up whenever you feel.)

4. NOT AGAINST SMOKING----If we want to clean up the image of the sport, I don't think smoking cigarettes is the place to start. IN BALL GOLF, THEY SMOKE AT THE MASTERS! I don't think that tarnished the image at all a few years ago when the camera caught that dude (what's his name?) smoking, who later beat Tiger in a playoff.

5. I am the primary caretaker of a disc golf course, and I hate it that there are people who come to the course and throw their cigarette butts on the ground. If you do that on any course, any where, screw you and the cancer stick you rode in on. Damn your ugly habits. I work hard on that place and despise uncaring biotches.
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Timko » Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:31 am

Who's this golfer? The only man to beat Tiger in a playoff ever is Billy Mayfair (he's 11-1 on the PGA tour and 10-0 on the European tour).

I have a feeling you're thinking of Angel Cabrera, who won the US Open in 2007 (Tiger finished T2, losing by a stroke).
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby abcd » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:12 am

Timko wrote:Who's this golfer? The only man to beat Tiger in a playoff ever is Billy Mayfair (he's 11-1 on the PGA tour and 10-0 on the European tour).

I have a feeling you're thinking of Angel Cabrera, who won the US Open in 2007 (Tiger finished T2, losing by a stroke).


tiger also has playoff losses to Graeme McDowell and Padraig Harrington (and Nick Price but not an official event).
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Timko » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:25 am

Oh, he did lose to Graeme last year. But that wasn't an official event either.

I totally missed the Padraig playoff.
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Luke13 » Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:36 am

Yep, it was Angel. How could I forget that name?

That's beside the point, though, he was the dude smoking like a chimney, and he won. Great respect hasn't been lost because of this.
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby jsun3thousand » Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:45 pm

Luke13 wrote:Yep, it was Angel. How could I forget that name?

That's beside the point, though, he was the dude smoking like a chimney, and he won. Great respect hasn't been lost because of this.


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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Dig It » Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:21 pm

jsun3thousand wrote:
disc golf doesn't have great respect to lose. actually, disc golf is engaged in a uphill battle for respect.

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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Fritz » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:58 pm

Did I miss something too when they said that the ban was also in response to the massive drought conditions that are plaguing California this year?
That to me seems more of a legit reason than trying to "look pro"
All it takes is some dumb ass player to drop some ash, flick a butt they think is out, or drop the sig to ignite a massive wild fire.

I think this is a good idea for safety as well as the game. I don't smoke, I'm an athlete and when I'm playing the sport I'm currently doing, the last thing I want to do in a run up, or when I'm relaxing awaiting my turn is breathe second hand smoke.
Some smokers have the courtesy to make sure they don't blow smoke on anyone, but a lot of the ones I've played with in tournaments don't care.

I hope they extend it to other events, make it out right ban in A Tier plus, and leave it up to the TD's in B's and C's.
Obviously I hope TD's think about the course conditions when deciding on allowing smoking or not. A lot of drought this year.
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Dookville » Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:56 am

Fritz wrote:Did I miss something too when they said that the ban was also in response to the massive drought conditions that are plaguing California this year?
That to me seems more of a legit reason than trying to "look pro"
All it takes is some dumb ass player to drop some ash, flick a butt they think is out, or drop the sig to ignite a massive wild fire.


"Governor lifts drought declarations from 2008, 2009, 2010"

http://blogs.kqed.org/climatewatch/2011 ... year-high/
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Jesse B 707 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:44 pm

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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby Iman522 » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:23 pm

I haven't read to much of this discussion but I am with Fritz. I am an athlete and things like smoke that could potentially damage my health frustrates me. I am very sensitive to smoke and I will usually get nasty headaches from smelling secondhand smoke. My most recent tournament the banned smoking due to drought conditions (which are really bad) and it turned out to be one of my most enjoyable tourneys. I think it is a good decision and support it fully.
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby jenb » Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:31 pm

Not sure if this has been linked here yet. The PDGA has issued a statement on their website.

http://www.pdga.com/worlds-smoking-ban

Aren't am world's in NY? There's no drought there is there? So are they are just trying to gauge amateur reaction to such a ban, or inconvenience ams as much as pros?
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby JR » Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:38 pm

It is a matter of perspective. For non smokers the inconvenience of smokers is convenience :-)
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Re: In-competition smoking banned at 2011 PDGA Pro & Am Worl

Postby abcd » Tue Oct 18, 2011 7:32 pm

Ban will be enforced at all majors in 2012.
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