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problems with nose up

Postby short drive » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:57 pm

to start with i throw these disc
chapion orc , champion teebird , star sidewinder , avenger , star orc , polaris ls
and i can't reach 300 ft yet . when i throw the disc it climbs up to about 25ft then starts to die out and reachs 280ft or the drive goes about 30 ft then goes into the ground. can anyone help me?
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Postby Thatdirtykid » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:58 pm

try some slower discs IE sabre, cyclone, gazelle, xl. . . Your wrist orientation is important as well as the plane you pull the disc on. When the disc dives into the ground you are likely rolling your wrist. http://www.discgolfreview.com/resources/articles.shtml< start here

http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2019< then here

http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=638&highlight=nose

http://www.discgolfreview.com/forums/search.php <not what you need try here
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Postby domromer » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:09 pm

gazelle, xl...can't go wrong..Get a ZXL, The one I have is way more consistent than the dxl.
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Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:34 pm

dom: if he's not throwing 300' he probably shoudln't be throwing any premium plastic.

short: the only two discs you've got in your bag you can probably control consistently are the polaris and the sidewinder.

however, i you want to really get better, the polaris is the one you have to work with and save the sidewinder for turning shots (do not try to throw it straight).

the flight behavior is definitely due to nose up. weight forward and keeping the disc close to the body are the usual two culprits
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Postby domromer » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:36 pm

Blake,

Do you think just playing with a putter for a bit would improve his throw?

Or would it allow for too much nose up and just give him better snap.
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Postby presidio hills » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:24 pm

if he's throwing 280ish... then short drive is ready for a driver. however, if short drive isn't yet good at throwing putters say, over 200ft. then it would be wise to learn to do so. and midranges maybe in the 230-250ft. range would be good too for someone whose max D is 280. in terms of timing it should help the form out a lot. i don't think it would help as much in terms of learning how to throw a nose sensitive driver, though.

short drive represents a huge chunk of the DG population that's not yet reaching 300' but pulls out the orc or wraith anyways... and even though they may go farther than anything else in the bag at the moment, they prohibit learning the proper technique necesary to break 350' and beyond.
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Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:18 pm

yah, what presidio said.
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Postby domromer » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:49 pm

Thats my solution for a everything. Use a putter for a week, what ever ailes you will be cured.

It works for me, when ever something in my game gets shitty, I just play a few games with a putter and everything comes together again.
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Postby Blake_T » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:50 pm

actually, re-reading presidio's post, yah, those are good fundamental things.

in terms of getting more nose down you basically have to focus on drivers, but working with drivers that will allow you to develop varying lines and still get the nose down.
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Postby cmrichar » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:00 pm

domromer wrote:Thats my solution for a everything. Use a putter for a week, what ever ailes you will be cured.

It works for me, when ever something in my game gets shitty, I just play a few games with a putter and everything comes together again.


It works for me as well...and still is.
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