Is 2011 a lost year for the USDGC

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Re: Is 2011 a lost year for the USDGC

Postby JR » Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:21 pm

2010 President's Cup brought women to the course and Val Jenkins (106.), Camilla Jernberg (140.), Des Reading (143.) and Birgitta Lagerholm (154.) played the USDGC too.
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Re: Is 2011 a lost year for the USDGC

Postby jsun3thousand » Tue Oct 09, 2012 2:42 am

Chuck Kennedy wrote:There was no payout for the Performance Flight, just a first place trophy or maybe trophies. The player pack appeared to be worth more than the $100 entry fee paid by the Performance entrants.


Chuck Kennedy wrote:Despite a smaller total purse and first place prize, the amount Innova added to the purse went up $4000 from $33,000 in 2010 to $37,250 which amounted to more than $640 cash added per Open player entered this year.


here's the performance flight players' pack for this year:
• Huk Lab Hoodie- a sponsor
• Innova Champion Roc Limited Edition- at cost
• Innova DX Pumpkin Aviar- at cost
• Disc Mania Fever- at cost
• USDGC Personalized Jersey-
• Keen Duffle / Player Pack Bag - a sponsor
• Competitor Credentials- ?
• Keen Pro Deal Card- coupon
• Sugar Buzz Bars- look homemade
• Orion Disc Golf T-shirt- sponsor
• Caramel Corn (with pecans) supporter
• Disc Stalker Bag Tag-supporter
• Disc Golf Center Sticker- sponsor
• York County Visitors Guide- free
• Plays it Forward Brochure- free
• Camp Canaan Brochure- free
• Sonic Coupons- free
• LSDiscs Vinyl Decal and Can Hugger- sponsor
• Innova Sticker- at cost

http://www.usdgc.com/10/03/2012-player-pack-contents.

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you can argue the players' pack retails at $100. with marketplace hype, some time, and a little entrepreneurial spirit, somebody could turn a small profit from their player's pack. that's not important. somebody with disc golf retail/wholesale knowledge can probably give an accurate estimate how what innova paid for each player's pack. i don't believe, as chuck stated, innova added $4000 more to the professional division than in 2010 from their benevolent pockets. innova took from the performance division and gave to the professional division to cover the addition.

players' packs costing innova a $100 dollars each, the cash added to the open division from the performance division breaks down as:

at 90% cost $710
at 85% cost $1065
at 80% cost $1420
at 75% cost $1775
at 70% cost $2130
at 65% cost $2485
at 60% cost $2840
at 55% cost $3195
at 50% cost $3550
at 45% cost $3950
at 40% cost $4260

at best, the addition of the performance division covered the $4,000 additional money added to the pro purse from 2010 to 2012, possibly adding. even skimming $10 from each performance player, innova covers 17.5% of the $4,000 addition. this does mot account for all the discs and other innova related stuff the performance division purchased.
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Re: Is 2011 a lost year for the USDGC

Postby Chuck Kennedy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:37 am

Does it matter where the extra money came from? It was still paid from Innova's pocket. All of Innova's income comes from disc golfers so it's kind of pointless to say some came from here and some came from there. The player pack wasn't the only thing the performance players received when you include things like free food, golf cart shuttles and all of the innova staff labor supporting them to produce a top flight professional experience.

The point is they did add $4000 more even with a pro field 1/3 the size as before. If they added the same amount of cash per player as they did in 2010 ($180 vs $640 this year) they would only have added about $12,000 instead of the $37,000 they did add. Innova decided to transform the USDGC format after 2010 partly due to unsustainable financial drain along with the inability to generate enough spectators to eventually attract additional sponsors. It looks like the new split format could be a more sustainable model and top pros should be very happy that may continue.
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Re: Is 2011 a lost year for the USDGC

Postby jsun3thousand » Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:58 pm

forgive me for posting about disc golf economics, for i have sinned. in the name of innova, the pdga and all its committees- especially the rules committee, and U.S patent no 4,568,297, amen.

my friend adjusted the payouts according to inflation. these numbers look awesome. hooray innova and the pdga for this wonderful world and all the disc golfers they have benevolently cared for.

year nominalPayout.... realPayout (in 2001 dollars)
2001 8000................................. 8000
2002 8000................................. 7875
2003 10000................................. 9625
2004 10000................................. 9375
2005 11000................................. 9974
2006 11000................................. 9663
2007 15000................................. 12812
2008 12000.................................. 9870
2009 15000................................. 12382
2010 12000.................................. 9746
2012 7500.................................. 5766

on a positive note for the usdgc, nate doss is awesome. a true disc golf ambassador. val is awesome and an ambassador, too.



read lots of complaining about the usdgc rule changes this year, again. i hope they all repent as well.
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Re: Is 2011 a lost year for the USDGC

Postby JHern » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:18 pm

Chuck Kennedy wrote:There was no payout for the Performance Flight, just a first place trophy or maybe trophies. The player pack appeared to be worth more than the $100 entry fee paid by the Performance entrants.


Just to play that course for 4 rounds, all to yourselves, in cherry condition, with all the spotters and wonderful facilities, events, excitement, and great people around...that alone is worth way more than $100!
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