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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby JR » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:12 am

After snow melted from my home course it became safe to play again. I found out that all my Wizards were too worn for me after gaining more power over the winter. Have a tourny coming up and my course requires driving with putters so lacking local Wiz seller I got a Star Aviar driver and it's the real deal. If anything it's a bit more HSS than new S and glow Wizards. I'm a believer!

I love Spiders. I can throw it just like a driver with approach form or distance form equally well. Sentinels in primo plastic new max weight, Gator X and an S Blaze to a lesser extent compete with ease of release, mild initial hyzer requirement and ability to flip flat at high speeds. They just don't do any of those things as well and Spider ain't a meat hook like those. For me Spider became the basis of my game. Since I'm only able to get half the spin of pros with wide winged drivers having a mid fly like a Striker to 280' is great. Both handle winds ok. Easy grip doesn't hurt either.

I haven't yet thrown Groove in heavy winds. I haven't seen anything odd in moderate winds yet but I've only thrown it on low line drives nose flat or down or steep uphill with at least 35 degree ascent angle. Up a ski jumping hill. What I like about my light Groove is that it's almost (practically) as long and HSS as my new 167 Pro Destroyer with a huge dome but with less skip to the left.

The worst joke of the day: Over rated discs=fade hard and drop fast early in the flight aka overstable :cry: :roll:
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby garublador » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:51 am

reallybadputter wrote:Underrated:
1. E Blaze (not the clear)... grippy, stable, its an awesome short fairway driver/long midrange... (I've been playing lately with a Blaze and Sabre as my midranges with a beat to heck Proto S-blaze and a Stingray for turnover duties)
IMO, the only thing more underrated than the E Blaze is the S Blaze.
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Trey133 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:05 am

Most Overrated Disc:
1. (Innova) The Groove, this disc is way too inconsistent for my needs. Sometimes it turns and burns, other times I can't get it to hold an anhyzer line to save my life. Wind will mess with this disc, even slight wind.
2. (Discraft) The Force (not tried in Z plastic yet), I feel like this disc was a rushed attempt to copy other big winged drivers, and it so far has been one of the other most inconsistent discs out.
3. (Gateway) The Clear Evolution Wizard, this thing isn't even a wizard...

Most Underrated Disc:
1. (Innova) Coyote, great beginner mid range that flies straight to under stable. I learned on it and then progressed to various roc molds, but still love it.
2. (Discraft) MRV, what the heck happened to this thing!!! I love the few I still have.
3. (Gateway) Warlock, this disc is massively overshadowed by Wizards and Voodoos and is a cult putter of some fine players in the Raliegh, Highpoint, Charlotte area. (NC)

Discs that didn't make the cut:
1. (Innova) Boss, at first I thought over rated, but it does what its meant to, go far and fast (provided you have the arm for it)
2. (Discraft) APX Swirl, at first I thought under rated, but this disc is still mega sought after from those "In the know"
3. (Gateway) Sabre, great disc all together, but didn't make the under / over rated cut.
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby black udder » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:15 am

Trey133 wrote:The Clear Evolution Wizard, this thing isn't even a wizard...


You got some 'splainin' to do Lucy...
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby JKP » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:21 am

black udder wrote:
Trey133 wrote:The Clear Evolution Wizard, this thing isn't even a wizard...


You got some 'splainin' to do Lucy...



and the force too... have you thrown the z plastic?
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby zj1002 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:27 am

black udder wrote:
Trey133 wrote:The Clear Evolution Wizard, this thing isn't even a wizard...


You got some 'splainin' to do Lucy...


i hated that disc as well. not a wizard

but i did get my hands on a force and i really dig it
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Jesse B 707 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:33 am

koyok23 wrote:
black udder wrote:
Trey133 wrote:The Clear Evolution Wizard, this thing isn't even a wizard...


You got some 'splainin' to do Lucy...


i hated that disc as well. not a wizard

but i did get my hands on a force and i really dig it

i guess by inconsistent he means the runs, cuz flight wise you cant find a more consistent high speed driver
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby JKP » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:45 am

Jesse B 707 wrote:
koyok23 wrote:
black udder wrote:
Trey133 wrote:The Clear Evolution Wizard, this thing isn't even a wizard...


You got some 'splainin' to do Lucy...


i hated that disc as well. not a wizard

but i did get my hands on a force and i really dig it

i guess by inconsistent he means the runs, cuz flight wise you cant find a more consistent high speed driver



yea the esp disc were stable by colors.. but the z plastic seems pretty consistent
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Trey133 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:54 am

I will edit my post, I haven't tried the Z plastic yet.

But yeah, I am a wizard fan but not in clear evolution plastic... those wizards are noticeably different.
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Frank Delicious » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:20 am

Trey133 wrote:I will edit my post, I haven't tried the Z plastic yet.

But yeah, I am a wizard fan but not in clear evolution plastic... those wizards are noticeably different.


I agree with this. Those fly like bricks
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Eric O » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:36 am

Steady 26542 wrote:UNDERRATED:
Omega SS.

How is that different than saying the Aviar P&A is overrated?
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Jesse B 707 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:39 am

Eric O wrote:
Steady 26542 wrote:UNDERRATED:
Omega SS.

How is that different than saying the Aviar P&A is overrated?

different mold comes to mind :wink:
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Eric O » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:44 am

Frank_Delicious wrote:
Trey133 wrote:I will edit my post, I haven't tried the Z plastic yet.

But yeah, I am a wizard fan but not in clear evolution plastic... those wizards are noticeably different.


I agree with this. Those fly like bricks
I've been using S Wizards for years and the Clear Evos I got fly just like a Wizard is supposed to. I've had one in the bag next to some S Wizards for a couple months and I throw it all the time on the same lines as the rest of my Wizards. The only difference is the clear evo takes a little more of a fuck up to accidentally roll over, and it has saved my regular driving wizards (med S plastic) from a lot of impact damage.

Note that I don't use Wizards on anything over 230ft unless it's downhill. If you guys are complaining about the way they fly at power and distances beyond that then I guess you could be onto something.
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby Eric O » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:45 am

Jesse B 707 wrote:
Eric O wrote:
Steady 26542 wrote:UNDERRATED:
Omega SS.

How is that different than saying the Aviar P&A is overrated?

different mold comes to mind :wink:

what, no bead vs small bead? pretty insignificant difference...

correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Over & Underrated discs?

Postby zj1002 » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:46 am

i just dont like floppy putters and midranges in regards to the E Wiz
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