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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby cmlasley » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:47 pm

Thank you for the review. Sounds like a quality offering from Discraft, and the opening salvo in the fairway driver arms race. The descriptions remind me of some of my old E Sabres. Let the wars begin.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby sunspot » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:26 pm

Banzai, you got me interested.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby Banzai » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:24 pm

Sunspot, Dgdave, et al. If you're interested, you should buy one. If you don't like it, trade it to me. :) I'm really interested to hear others' opinions since I haven't ever thrown the TP cyclones.

I went out with this thing again today and was just loving it. But I'm just comparing it to my Gazelles, Teebirds, and one D Cyclone. We need one of you plastic hoarders to review it.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby domromer » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:27 pm

How is it compared to a Gazelle? Is it a hard run of Esp or the softer more gummy kind?
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby Banzai » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:06 pm

Softer run, not stiff. Flexy flight plate, but the rim is solid. Not the super durable stuff, but still more durable than Pro D!

Compared to a new DX gazelle, I'd say slightly less HSS and a tad more LSS. It's larger diameter than a Gazelle, and a deeper rim, so it feels a bit slower... the gazelle is a little longer for me. Basically, it'll turn from a bit of hyzer up to flat, whereas a new Gazelle wouldn't as much.

Compared to a KC Gazelle, it's a whole different world. The KC Gazelles I've thrown (only 3 of them) were really beefy. Think of the difference between a new 11x Ch. Teebird and a Dx Teebird; that's basically what KC Gazelles are like compared to DX Gazelles. The ESP Cyclone is not like that at all.

IMHO, it serves as a great premium plastic disc to complement the same mold in Pro D. At one point or other, I was throwing DX and Ch. Teebird, KC Gazelle and DX Gazelles. This is just much more readily available than the KC Gazelle (and better -- less glideless meathookery!). I find Cyclones more forgiving (and more versatile) than Teebirds.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby Working Stiff » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:15 pm

Banzai wrote:Softer run, not stiff. Flexy flight plate, but the rim is solid. Not the super durable stuff, but still more durable than Pro D!

Compared to a new DX gazelle, I'd say slightly less HSS and a tad more LSS. It's larger diameter than a Gazelle, and a deeper rim, so it feels a bit slower... the gazelle is a little longer for me. Basically, it'll turn from a bit of hyzer up to flat, whereas a new Gazelle wouldn't as much.

Compared to a KC Gazelle, it's a whole different world. The KC Gazelles I've thrown (only 3 of them) were really beefy. Think of the difference between a new 11x Ch. Teebird and a Dx Teebird; that's basically what KC Gazelles are like compared to DX Gazelles. The ESP Cyclone is not like that at all.

IMHO, it serves as a great premium plastic disc to complement the same mold in Pro D. At one point or other, I was throwing DX and Ch. Teebird, KC Gazelle and DX Gazelles. This is just much more readily available than the KC Gazelle (and better -- less glideless meathookery!). I find Cyclones more forgiving (and more versatile) than Teebirds.
Sounds a lot like a TP Cyclone. I HAVE to get some!
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby black udder » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:30 pm

Know how it compares to the ESP XL?
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby eg37167 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:47 pm

Dang! Now I want one and I head out for vacation Wed. Guess they will all be gone by then, they way ordering spikes after a favorable DGR notice... :lol:
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby Banzai » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:50 pm

black udder wrote:Know how it compares to the ESP XL?


Sorry, never thrown one.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby dgdave » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:21 pm

The more I think about it, the more I think I don't need thid. I like more unversatile discs (teebirds, comets, etc.)
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby Luke » Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:13 pm

dgdave wrote:The more I think about it, the more I think I don't need thid. I like more unversatile discs (teebirds, comets, etc.)


That's where I'm at.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby Banzai » Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:29 pm

Comets are unversatile?
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby marmoset » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:11 pm

Banzai wrote:Comets are unversatile?

Compared to other mids, yes.
They like straight, gradual hyzers, gradual anhyzers. The Comet isn't the best for anything that requires it to come out of a steeper anny, an abrupt turn, or harsher fade.
Having said that, I still think they are great discs. I just carry a Roc with me for the shots that I don't think will suit the Comet.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby rusch_bag » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:56 am

My buddy just got an ace on his first throw with his new esp cyclone on the first throw of the day.
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Re: ESP Cyclone

Postby Working Stiff » Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:19 pm

dgdave wrote:The more I think about it, the more I think I don't need thid. I like more unversatile discs (teebirds, comets, etc.)
Good. More for me! :P
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