Talking bout stalking (stalkers post here)

[Frank Delicious]

This has also got me thinking about the fact that there is almost two different types of control drivers. Eagles, Teebirds, and strikers can be longer control drivers while cyclones, JLS, and the striker are shorter. Maybe not shorter, a better way to say it would be that they require more height to get things done.

You meant "Stalker" in the first group, right?

I meant to put stalker in the second group. While it can be thrown as far as Eagles, Teebirds, strikers etc it's strength does not lay in throwing them that far. Another great tweener or short fairway driver is the sabre. I can't believe I forgot about it. Want to talk about a good disc that requires height to get any real distance out of. The Sabre is the poster child for that catagory.

I edited my post so it makes sense now.

[Anakha]

How about some updates on Stalker vs. Cyclone?

Ok, how about Stalker vs. ESP Clone 320'-420'? Who wins in predictability? Line shaping?

[SkaBob]

Actually I'd say the stalker's two strengths are that it goes laser straight, and that it does it for nearly 400 feet if you can get a distance disc out past 410 or so.

[Timko]

Cyclone is better for shaping (HS understable, LS overstable), the Stalker is more predictable (HS stable, LS stable/overstable).

[Frank Delicious]

Actually I'd say the stalker's two strengths are that it goes laser straight, and that it does it for nearly 400 feet if you can get a distance disc out past 410 or so.

I must be right under the power requirement then. I can only get my Wraith or SOLF out to 400' on most good days. I can get the stalker to go 350'+ but it feels like I have to throw it unnecessarily hard to get it out there.

[SkaBob]

Maybe try a lighter one? The one I've been working with the most is 170g (and orange), and I've really been pleased with the distance it gets on a low line drive...

[Frank Delicious]

I'll definitely get a lighter one and I completely agree that one of it's strengths is the low line drive distance it can get.

[Steady 26542]

MDR and I were discussing the Stalker on another board and he agreed with my statement below:

The Stalker is a sweet disc. The 171 I got in my player's pack flies dead straight with a bit of fade at the end. I liken it to a QJLS. I got the same D with just a touch more fade, but it is brand new.

[Pat]

The original description of this disc was a longer Buzzz. Would you folks who throw them still say this is true?

[gator]

I would say yes, I never threw a "fairway driver" before but it has really saved me from trying to throw my buzz to hard.

[discspeed]

The original description of this disc was a longer Buzzz. Would you folks who throw them still say this is true?

Yes.

[SkaBob]

I mostly throw an FLX Buzzz, and would say the Stalker is more HSS.

I also have some Z Buzzzes, and would say the Stalker is less LSS.

[Hoey]

The original description of this disc was a longer Buzzz. Would you folks who throw them still say this is true?

Yes.

Yeah man! When you hear things like that, it always, yeah right! But this is proving to live up to the description at least. The more I throw this disc the more I like it. Its made a couple holes that are "just too much for a mid/not long enough for a driver" really attainable.

Just pure-ing some straight tunnels with this disc too... and it does get a nice forward skip too when it lands right.

[Anakha]

Now that I've tested the Stalker thoroughly, I have to say Discraft has put out another fantastic disc that doesn't fly like anything else out there. This is one straight flying sumbitch. It has a beautiful flight to it, just seems to float while maintaining forward penetration, and is very workable straight out of the box.

I threw about 10-15 different ones, and my favorites were the Glo's and Sparkles. Great feeling in the hand with these, very smooth and great confidence with each release.

That being said, I do like the disc, but it's just not replacing my Cyclones. It would fight for the same spot in my bag. The reason being, is that what I look for in a fairway driver is a little easier/more distance than a mid, but with a driver flight.(low lines, tighter angles) The Stalker in comparison, is a driver with a midrange-like flight.

It will stay in the "tester" bag though, just because I love how it flies.

[Parks]

I can get the stalker to go 350'+ but it feels like I have to throw it unnecessarily hard to get it out there.

I got the exact same feeling with this disc. Glad I'm not crazy.