All this color/run debate is easily fixed by a good amount of tuning. Tuning a disc truly works. All Destroyers, as my best example, have the same general flight path. But some come out flippier than others sometimes by a wide margin. Same flight path, but with more or less high speed stability. Tuning my discs, however, allows me to (with minimal effort) get them all to the same familiar stability. It works the same with Discraft, Innova, or Gateway discs for me.
As for the Ville Pippo discussion (which I hadn't had time to get into until now) - I throw my forehands out about 460 on a golf line right now, about 10 feet off the ground at the highest point, and Bennett has me by a wide margin. I haven't seen Ville throw in person, but I agree with Mark - Ville may be an athletic person (though he appears to be more "fit" than "athletic" - big BIG difference), but he doesn't appear to have athletic form. He doesn't bring his whole lower body into his shots, he relies heavily on his arm speed from the elbow out with minimal contributions from his legs, torso, and upper arm (I say minimal because he clearly has SOME leg push, but it clearly isn't a lot).
He may have a bigger arm than Bennett or Koling, I can't say for certain having not seen them all. But from what I have seen - 475 on a low golf line isn't going to touch Geoff right now I don't think.