JR wrote:Chris would you qualify 80ish meters with a javelin as athletic or how high are your standards? See that is a world class result although not championship material. Ville wasn't talking about how Geoff looked like just his shots or maybe he meant form and power generation dunno. I don't know Ville's limits FH. Ville isn't an immovable hulk he's fairly flexible if you mean mobility. And for such a muscular guy he's more flexible than most. Don't underestimate him. Having seen Geoff on videos and knowing how he has placed in big competitions I suspected something was off when he played with Ville. I got the distinct feeling from Ville's description that I've seen much better performance from Geoff and told Ville that and to not underestimate Geoff in the future based on that experience.
I did not know about the javelin throwing - I've thrown javelin and compete in decathlons regularly - and 80 meters is bad ass. I can barely eclipse 45 haha. As I said before - I am operating on the things you all have stated here, I haven't said either way whether or not he's athletic. Just that he looks like he's a bit more bulky and less fluid. Knowing this about his javelin tosses, then that is definitely an athletic event and he'd have to be a hell of an athlete to pull together a rip like that. Impressive as hell, only 10M off the top 10 in the world. (a wide gap and yet not wide at the same time, if that makes sense).
And yes - I did mean flexibility, speed... mostly it all goes into: is he fluid when he competes athletically. His forehand is very mechanical, which is what I took my impressions from. And I'm definitely not underestimating Ville - he'd crush me on the course regularly I'm sure. He's clearly a hell of a player. All told I'd say I've learned a lot of interesting stuff in this discussion which makes it worth it.