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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby Trey133 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 8:40 am

Robin Hood wrote:
discspeed wrote:Sounds exactly like my Champ Katanas.


The Katanas i've thrown we're wayyy flipper than the Snuke. If i put 70% power on a Katana released from a slight hyzer its going to flip bad. I'd almost bet the Snuke would barely flip up. Maybe I threw a freak Katana? It was mad flippy.


What katana are you throwing? Is it pro? The heavy champs shouldn't be "mad flippy" at all. I would give them about a true -1 turn, and thats far from being a flip dog.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:18 pm

173 pink champ. I'd say it was more of a -2 in stability.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby gator » Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:04 pm

My nukes are shipped!
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby JHBlader86 » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:41 pm

worthdan wrote:
smarkquart wrote:
discspeed wrote:
scoot_er wrote:
SkaBob wrote:Where would you put them, stability-wise scoot_er?

Faster Surge SS?

How do they compare distance-wise with the Force?



Let you now in a few days but supposedly they go real far but are a little flippy and not good for headwinds.


Sounds Katanaish. Anyway, Discraft is pissing away a REALLY GOOD marketing opportunity imo by not flooding stores with these before Xmas and preempting Innova's stock release of the Katana. I personally would love to see them pull a punch like that. Instead, they're following Innova's lead and making them a fundraiser for the holidays.


Would it not be the smart thing to do to release it in limited quantities and see if it is any good? Usually only those who know anything about the sport, know anything about discs, are they not the ones to go out of their way and get tournament discs? I think it would be better to dangle the carrot a little more, wait until these tournament discs are a little dinged up and people begin clamoring for back-ups and regular runs that they do not care to damage. I am not sure I want to go through another wave of Groove like discs again. I remember how excited we were about those and how many were sold when they went into production. I thought Discraft was wise to hold back their version of the Groove and not flood the market with theirs as well.

every new player wants the latest and greatest, the newest and fastest. and most experienced players want to at least try them. flooding the market sounds like it may have been a great opportunity. who all has tried the boss or force and how many noobs have you seen throwing them?



I think it is good to hold back on regular production. If the Nuke is a great disc then they want the hype to build up, instead of flooding the market with a shitty disc (ala the Groove). Also, and I'm only speculating, but maybe Discraft is realizing there is a backlash to these super fast drivers, and by releasing the limited quantity they can get the feedback necessary to either continue with the current mold, or tweak it for the regular production to get what the customers want.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby discspeed » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:54 pm

I look forward to trying this disc, though it probably won't be until the production run. I don't want to pay extra and as JD points out above, they may treak them a little one way or the other.

Does anyone else think this name is really a dumb idea? Since when is a nuke a good thing? Arguably perhaps if you were in a POW camp in Japan or a concentration camp in Europe during WWII, but besides that I think its a little iffy. Stalker was a bit iffy, but the idea of a big cat like the graphics on the World's Stalkers make it work. A nuke is a horrible thing all the way around imo. What's next, the Apocalypse?
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby BIG MACK » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:12 pm

I don't think the name should be taken too seriously...there are many disc names that are "bad" things. Destroyer, Wraith, Banshee, Tsunami, Demon, Predator, Monster, Cyclone, Venom...just to name a few.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:53 pm

great marketing. "This disc flat out BOMBS!" for example.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby Roy » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:53 pm

discspeed wrote:I look forward to trying this disc, though it probably won't be until the production run. I don't want to pay extra and as JD points out above, they may treak them a little one way or the other.

Does anyone else think this name is really a dumb idea? Since when is a nuke a good thing? Arguably perhaps if you were in a POW camp in Japan or a concentration camp in Europe during WWII, but besides that I think its a little iffy. Stalker was a bit iffy, but the idea of a big cat like the graphics on the World's Stalkers make it work. A nuke is a horrible thing all the way around imo. What's next, the Apocalypse?



I think comparing a long disc to a bomb makes sense. I think you're over analyzing it.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby Mixed Bag Madness » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:12 pm

Just got my Nuke in from GGGT. 172g yellow, nice dome but not super poppy. I can't wait to try this thing out! I'm tempted to brave the current snow flurries and go down the street for a few test throws. If not, I'll test it tomorrow at the long wide open hole at my local course against my Forces. I haven't been this excited for a while :D (I rarely buy new plastic unlike you animals..)
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby ForeverBlue232 » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:28 am

For anyone who has thrown the Nuke yet, do you buy DiscGolfCenter.com's rating of it as 13/4/-1/3?
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby smarkquart » Sun Dec 20, 2009 8:37 am

discspeed wrote:Does anyone else think this name is really a dumb idea? Since when is a nuke a good thing? Arguably perhaps if you were in a POW camp in Japan or a concentration camp in Europe during WWII, but besides that I think its a little iffy. Stalker was a bit iffy, but the idea of a big cat like the graphics on the World's Stalkers make it work. A nuke is a horrible thing all the way around imo. What's next, the Apocalypse?


I do not have a problem with the name; as many have pointed out, we already use the terminology "bomb" to describe long distance throws. It is really a matter of whether the disc lives up to its name or not. What I am concerned about is the pictures and marketing they might use. It could get offensive quickly. I like what they have done with the disc design, using just the radiation symbol instead of showing an actual bomb going off over a real city. Even the campaign picture is a generic, computerized nuclear explosion that could be seen in any post-apocalyptic video game.

And yes, I do see such discs such as Apocalypse, Zombie, Devil, Warmonger, etc, and I do not see a problem with them because in the name alone there is no offensive connection to any particular group. There is definitely a fine line and I hope never to see the Holocaust, the Rapist, Redskin, Redneck, Hiroshima, the Slave, and or any derogatory nickname you can think of but should never be typed again. I do agree with the Stalker being iffy though but it is a hell of a disc, and again it does not target an individual group and works perfectly with their predator line of animals.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby discspeed » Sun Dec 20, 2009 12:15 pm

smarkquart wrote: There is definitely a fine line and I hope never to see the Holocaust, the Rapist, Redskin, Redneck, Hiroshima, the Slave, and or any derogatory nickname you can think of but should never be typed again. I do agree with the Stalker being iffy though but it is a hell of a disc, and again it does not target an individual group and works perfectly with their predator line of animals.


I just don't really like the name. I don't think its a real big deal or anything. I agree that the above names are worse...however "the Slave" gives me quite a chuckle thinking about some possible marketing applications. "Make your putter your Slave"...or "Is your Slave new or beat?", or "If your Slave is too stable, just beat it in a bit". Horrible, I know, but funny in a South Park kind of way.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby gator » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:53 pm

I didn't like the way my slave was working so I just threw it into the wall a couple times to break the damn thing in.

I didn't like the way those slaves were working so I just traded them away.

That slaves sitting at the bottom of the lake now.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby gator » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:53 pm

nobody should have an issue with that name.
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Re: Discraft Nuke

Postby Mixed Bag Madness » Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:36 pm

Got a few throws in with the Nuke today (in the snow :x ) I tested it against my Surge and Force on a long slightly uphill wide open hole at one of my local courses . I had no problem getting excellent throws with it right off the bat. It flew very similar to my Force that's a little seasoned except it was faster out of the hand (of course) and didn't have as much high speed turn. I had one throw with it on a smooth slight hyzer that stayed true all the way and it went as far as my Forces and Surges do on distance style lines (420 feet+) Because of this fact I'm under the impression that this will be longer than anything in my bag once it's broken in a little. Where my Force would turn a good deal in the high speed portion and then s curve back, the Nuke wouldn't turn as far and would just lock in straight and glide with a nice but not ridiculously overstable finish. Me likey so far.... :)
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