discspeed wrote:I just dropped all my proton mids because I am just like the feel of Neutron much better. Neutron is much grippier, especially when it is not warm and humid here.
I just got home from playing a round with temperatures in the mid 40's and niether of my vectors felt very good. The neutron plastic was better but not great. On the other hand my older opaque proton Ion felt really nice.
46F for me today and i futzed with different grips and the best results to avoid slipping with came the base of the thumb on the flight plate, thumb otherwise in the Jenkins orientation, thumb well to the inside of the disc maybe an inch and a quarter inward of the outer edge and three finger power grip with the bottom of the disc in the outer joints of the fingers. With Neutron Axis, Anode and Ion. I took a few weeks nightly treatment of argan oil and i have slightly better skin grippyness now but i also had to take a month off of throwing too.
The N 172 Axis is fairly flat flatter than Protons and Eclipses and thus it seems to be faster. The only wind direction i could throw with traction on the tertiary field i use was rear wind and for best distance i had to throw it high. It was very difficult to achieve from slips before i dropped the base of the thumb onto the flight plate. And man that thing added insane D. I wish it would have been possible to throw on my normal training field so that i could have gotten accurate results. And been able to test headwind performance. Normally Teebirds fly to where the tallest rear wind Axis shots landed. I smashed as hard as i could and the disc wouldn't flip. On the other hand a couple of degrees of anny was held to the ground with a 100' approach. So there is still a lot of sideways movement per missed hyzer angle degree. OTOH tight turns and long shots with this and placement shots from a Roc are just fine combo. Buzz would overlap more. another way to look at the Axis is to say that it really rewards hitting your hyzer angle a lot because it is very straight on a flat shot and moves predictably a lot sideways when tilted.
Neutron 172 Anode is the straightest Anode and with more user error tolerance grip wise so i can't say if that is semantically correct to say that it is more HSS than older iterations of Anodes. It may be it may not but on the course it should be more dependable. A huge thumbs up!
Neutron Ion 168 turns the tiniest amount if i don't smash as hard as i can. The fade is minimally more than with the Anode. I haven't putted with either.
I got mixed results of my 168 Neutron Volt. No disc has ever tugged my fingers as hard as often. Gyroscopics? Thrown with nose flat it turns more than i prefer around 4 degrees with taller throws than i normally use for disc golf throws. Just like the Neutron Axis the distance changes greatly with apex height in rear wind. Thrown high i got it to around 370-380' with an s-curve. So pretty far vs my max D. When i dropped the front of the disc lower than the rear the disc flipped a lot more and the s-curve started with a way wider turn with a fade that left the disc about 40-50' right of the initial direction with a high throw. Had it been a normal low line drive height the disc would have cut rolled. I got a light one based on how discspeed said that the lighter ones are more gyroscopic. How much less would a 175 flip and how much more does it fade? The Volt 168 is not a straight disc with the flip and the fade that is harder than Leo and River. As such this disc is more of a turn right, s-curve and straight then left disc than a laser like those two. A different role which is fine in itself but overlapping with a bunch of older designs and not too useful on the courses around me. Without the rear wind the situation might change a lot toward a straighter finish which would be nice for my needs and preferences.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.