deaddisc wrote: MDR_3000 wrote:
Aaron_D wrote:why is it that everyone (including me) loves overstable discs for sidearm? please dont say off axis torque....even though I know you will!
because most people just don't throw forehands correctly....
I would have to disagree strongly here. I throw a very good forehand, not even fake pumping myself up. Ive found that when you are able to get good snap on the disc with good form, you can put much more spin on a disc than with a bh drive. Thus, the reason why people love overstable discs for sidearm is that they just want something to fill a void of long anny shots. This void is filled perfectly with a strong sidearm using overstable discs. However this maxes out your sidearm distance between 300 and 400 depending on how good you can throw it.
Recently I have been trying to find a disc that I can s-curve forehand for a longer D shot (450+). Ive thrown a few nice ones with campion starfires, pro/star wraiths, and champ orc; however they all beat in too quickly and only have a short life of the usefulness of this shot. My next thought is to throw the Maxx and see how that works. Could be a fruitless pursuit, and I could just be back to my 350' z-flick but I'll never know without trying.
I agree and disagree with this. I'm also a pretty good sidearmer--I don't get HUGE D on my shots, but better than most, and usually fairly accurate.I too believe that sidearmers like overstable discs b/c of the inherent physics at play, but I don't think it's b/c the sidearm shot gets more spin.
I think that the sidearm shot actually gets LESS spin than the backhand, but its advantage is that it leaves the hand with more speed. That's why it's easier for a beginner to get a nice S-curve with a max distance disc sidearmed rather than backhanded, because they're able to get the disc up to the right speed for it to turn over. Because of the amount of speed that a forehand can generate, we need a disc that's more HSS to keep it from flipping over into a cut roller. But because there's less spin on the disc, when the LSF part of the flight kicks in, the disc will dive harder than if thrown backhand. It's because of the amount of spin you can put on the disc backhanded that backhanded drives are the longest. A good example is that kid on the Latitude 64 site, he's throwing BH, and it doesn't look like an extraordinarily fast drive, but he's got such mad spin on it, that it just keeps going FOREVER (and those discs are overstable too!).