So in the last week or so I ordered and received
1) 148g Aero
2) 164g Rattler
3) 175g Birdie
While the Aero certainly isn't a Lid, it is somewhat Lid like, being very tall. The Rattler is very reminiscent of a regular catch frisbee , and the Birdie is similar , but much thicker edged.
I bought the Rattler for my bro in law, he doesn't have any Lids yet and struggles putting with his XD . Aero is a learning disc for my daughter, and the Birdie is for me to try in comparison to my Super Puppy.
Unfortunately, it's been 20*F lately, with 6" of snow on the ground, so I'll have to reserve judgement until the weather clears up a bit.
DX Birdie 175g, Opto Pure 170g. Champ Cobra 165g, Star Mako 162g, Champ TL 168g, Medium Trak 157g, VIP Sword 175g, Medium Lace 163g, RHBH , RHFH , RHOH/Tomahawk