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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby dgdave » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:01 pm

Wow. That's long once I saw it as a post.
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby Reives.J » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:27 pm

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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby what'shisname » Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:47 pm

Haha... I was waiting for Dave to come in here and drop a huge list like that.

I've had. A couple misc. gym type bags with adhoc cardboard supports before getting my first real dg bag.

Innova Standard (field work bag)
GB Spider Monkey (I use this for all my lunch time/quick/travel rounds. Great great bag.)
GB Simian
And I'm waiting on a Grip which looks to me to be prefect for what I'm after. Have to wait and see though. The mahal looks like a solid bag, an ugly one in my opinion, but it does look top quality. I can't imagine wanting that much space though myself.
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby Sean40474 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:27 pm

dgdave wrote:Fishing Bag
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LOL, you have a bag fetish sir. How many years spread over those bags?
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby dgdave » Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:32 pm

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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby juju » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:15 pm

Oh man, look what I started.

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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby Booter » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:25 pm

so i played 3 rounds today with my mahal and let me tell you, from a guy who has chronic lower back pains, that waist strap and yoke system on the mahal does work! my back still bothered me a little bit but definitely a big difference than how it felt after 2 rounds with my other bags. using the waist belt takes a load off ya and basically transfers it to your legs which even then,is still not much. i carried 20 discs,2 32oz waters,snacks,my usual random items and i felt good after all 3 rounds.
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby jubuttib » Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:13 pm

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My newer Jotos backpack

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How many discs can you fit in the main compartment if you put them in the other way around, like Barsby does?
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby Booter » Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:22 pm

16
14drivers
2 putters

Or
17 drivers

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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby Mark Ellis » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:08 pm

This is my early review- and a few questions-on the Mystery Ranch Mahal bag.

I won't be comparing the Mahal to a Grip bag (as I don't own one) but will make comparisons to Revolutions bags, which I have used for many years and found to be fine products. I just got the Mahal and have used it for 3 rounds. Basically it seems like a well made and designed bag so let me start with questions:

* What the heck does the velcro on both sides of the main compartment do? What is the space between the main compartment and the side pockets designed for? There is this funny little gap, partially closed by velcro separating the main and side pockets. I may use it to hold a scorecard unless someone tells me its real purpose.

* Since I don't plan to use the chest straps or the waist straps ever (or hardly ever), should I just cut them off? They dangle all over, catch on things and get in the way so I have wrapped them up. Unless I was hiking a long way out to a starting hole it wouldn't be worth it to go to the effort to unwrap them then rewrap them just to make it fit more snugly for a hike. Heck, on short holes I just sling the bag over one shoulder and don't bother with both shoulder straps.

* I have not tried to adjust the yoke. From the video it looks like it would take a degree in engineering to figure it out. Is it worth the bother? I talked to a buddy who has had his bag for months and he has never tried to adjust it. My bag feels all right. How do I know if I should go through the effort?

* What are the impressions of the players who have both Mahals and Revos?

OK, initial impressions:

The shoulder straps are more difficult to get in and out of than in my Revo bag with Phenix straps. This may not be a big deal to most players, or even noticeable, perhaps. I do not have good flexibility and it took me a long time to get comfortable with dual straps.

While there are a bunch of pockets, I'm not sure the Mahal actually carries more stuff than the Revo. Certain items are large or bulky by their nature: towels, jackets, vests, hats, mittens, etc. The Revo side pockets are big and hold big items well. None of the Mahal pockets are as big and the couple extra small pockets don't seem to be all that useful because, well, generally small pockets aren't all that useful to me.

The Mahal does not balance as well on a stool as the Revo does. I am pretty committed to using a camp stool because I don't want to set my bag on the ground (in the dirt or wet or mud or snow) and it is easier on my back if I don't have to bend down as far. Because the Mahal is wider than the Revo the balance is more precarious especially on uneven ground or side hills. The added width also makes it harder to navigate the tight spots we walk through on the course. With practice I think I will adjust to the added width but it does seem odd that the Mahal is both wider and seems to carry less than the Revo.

The main compartment of the Mahal holds fewer discs than the main compartment of the Revo. Not including risk discs I usually carry 17 or 18 discs (at least 3 putters, 3 mids and the rest drivers). Without overstuffing, the Mahal main compartment comfortably holds 14 discs. It may well break in and the Barsby method might help too. But so far I have needed to use one side pocket for discs, further limiting space for bulky items.

The putter pocket of the Mahal is bigger (and better) than the Revo. My current Revo has been in service for a few years and has tightened up from exposure to rain and snow. I carry one standard sized putter (Magnet) and one somewhat bigger putter (Rattler) in the putter pocket. It bugs me when I have to fight to pull out my putters. The Mahal is nicely bigger yet still feels secure (you don't want your putters falling out as you carry your bag).

The Mahal has a triangle shaped space above the main compartment, on top of the discs (formed by the sides of the bag) which I really like. It is easy to jam a towel or a mitten in this space and have it feel pretty secure from falling out as you walk down the fairway. Since there is this bonus space I wonder if anyone has tried folding a jacket and putting it under the discs (as another way to use the space)?

The Mahal seems to carry more weight (discs, liquid) than the Revo without feeling like it. This may be more based on perception than reality. With my Revo I could feel the weight difference if I pulled out a couple discs or even filled my water bottle half up. Eventually I might become that sensitive to the Mahal.

So, btw, I have had many different bags, including most of the top of the line entries. The last bag I tried then gave away was the Phenix as I found it substantially lacking (hated the pockets).
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby sloppydisc » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:17 am

The two little Velcro loops on each side are to help hold an umbrella. You can jam the handle down into the side and secure it further up with one of those loops. That way in rain you could walk and set your bag down with an umbrella opened. Discs could then stay dry even with rain fall open.

Side compartments with Velcro are for scorecard/storage or the umbrella. Or you can insert a Camelback in one of them and use for water.

YES, you should get your engineering degree and set up the bag correctly. It took me and my engineer wife about 30 minutes. We watched the video on line a couple times. Just keep in mind that the video and booklet that come with the bag are not the golf bag. It varies a little. That sucks, but it isn't that bad.

Once you have it set up right it is great. I put the bag on and pull those two front straps nice and tight. When you want to take it off just pull the plastic buckles and loosen those straps. Then it is really easy to get on and off.

I haven't really used the waist or chest strap much either. I tried them a little bit just to check it out. I don't find them necessary for short, flat courses. But I can see where they would be great on a hilly or mountainous course. I hooked them up and ran one fairway up a hill. It didn't even fell like Imhad a bag on my back.

Enjoy the bag.
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby sloppydisc » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:20 am

And no, don't cut the straps off. It suck if you ever decided you needed them back. Get a little Velcro from Home Depot or a craft store and just fold them up and secure them. They'll be out of the way, and if you ever need them, or want to sell the bag later, they'll still be there. They'd be kind of tough to sew back in place!
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby Booter » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:34 am

The chest strap slides off,u just manipulate the strap through the entry points on the plastic pieces and voila,its off
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby lovetoDG » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:53 am

I just got Mahal yesterday and have been checking in and outs of the bag. I have one concern about the bottom because when I put at least 15 discs in main compartment and it's kinda sticking in a bit on the bottom. Definitely needs support for the bottom so the discs won't push up from rocks or rough ground to land on.

What would be best solution to add the bottom of main compartment? Cardboard? Wood?, or what would be best?
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Re: Grip vs Mahal

Postby bill » Tue Apr 19, 2011 8:10 am

lovetoDG wrote:I just got Mahal yesterday and have been checking in and outs of the bag. I have one concern about the bottom because when I put at least 15 discs in main compartment and it's kinda sticking in a bit on the bottom. Definitely needs support for the bottom so the discs won't push up from rocks or rough ground to land on.

What would be best solution to add the bottom of main compartment? Cardboard? Wood?, or what would be best?


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