Discraft Titanium (now with pics)

[Booter]

if theyre not as stable or not more stable than heavy glo buzzzs,ill pass

[TLapham]

if theyre not as stable or not more stable than heavy glo buzzzs,ill pass

True. I'll probably still get 1 because I'm an addict, but I'm really hoping for them to be nice and stable.

[juju]

if theyre not as stable or not more stable than heavy glo buzzzs,ill pass

Booter pass on discs?!?

[rusch_bag]

Every glo buzzz I have tried hasn't flew any differently than any regular z buzzz I have thrown. Am I just getting weird ones or am I missing something? My beefiest buzzz has a little shoulder on it.

[JR]

I have two Glo Z Buzzzes that are more OS than the good Zs that are more OS than the worse more domey ones. I'll at least fondle a Ti Buzzz and Stalker for grip tackyness. If the flight is that of a Z and there is a better grip and good enough durability i'm happy to buy.

[BLURR]

GGGT has them listed at $17.95. If that is going to be the going rate, I will stick with my z's since I can replace one of those for $12.95.

[Timko]

Last night I tested the Ti Nukes, Forces and Stalkers which my sponsor was kind enough to send me. The most notable difference from Z plastic is that the Nukes are very overstable. Not nearly as overstable as an OS but more overstable than Z Nukes, which I view as excellent.

Do the Nukes still have good glide though?

[Mark Ellis]

Last night I tested the Ti Nukes, Forces and Stalkers which my sponsor was kind enough to send me. The most notable difference from Z plastic is that the Nukes are very overstable. Not nearly as overstable as an OS but more overstable than Z Nukes, which I view as excellent.

Do the Nukes still have good glide though?

Yes. It is still a Nuke. It is just a Nuke a notch up in stability. So it will fight wind better and handle the power of the big arm throwers better.

The general rule remains the same: Starting from a disc which is purely stable (flies flat and straight when thrown flat and straight) the more overstable a disc is relative to the strength of the thrower, the less glide it will have, no matter what the disc is. A more overstable disc is more predictable at the expense of potential distance. The rule breaks down when a disc gets too flippy to control, then greater understability only gives you a paper plate.

[JHern]

The general rule remains the same: Starting from a disc which is purely stable (flies flat and straight when thrown flat and straight) the more overstable a disc is relative to the strength of the thrower, the less glide it will have, no matter what the disc is.

Well said. There is a good physical reason for this, which is that a disc which flies dead straight is being lifted by the air right through its center, so all that lift power goes into lifting the disc up and maintaining altitude. A disc that is over-stable is lifted off-center toward the nose, and that lift power is partitioned between actually lifting the disc and torquing it (lifting the nose relative to the tail), so the ability to maintain altitude must decrease. The same is true for an under-stable disc, however, these can be thrown so that the disc turns over higher in the air, and when it slows down enough to fly straight it has more initial altitude than the thrower (so it is like throwing downhill).

if theyre not as stable or not more stable than heavy glo buzzzs,ill pass

True. I'll probably still get 1 because I'm an addict, but I'm really hoping for them to be nice and stable.

The Z Buzzzes with the flattest tops are the most stable (at least for me). I've found that the Glo Z Buzzz can actually be a tad over-stable. I'm betting that the Ti-Buzzz is going to be very stable, so probably more like the Z Buzzz than the Glo Z Buzzz. I'm also hearing very similar rumors through the grapevine. That is why I absolutely MUST get my hands on one. Although my disc budget is highly depleted this month.

[donnyv]

I heard that the ti force is less stable than the z force but that is only what I heard. Anyone here throw them yet to confirm?

[JHern]

I heard that the ti force is less stable than the z force but that is only what I heard. Anyone here throw them yet to confirm?

Doss was saying the opposite...that the Ti Force is straighter than the Z Force (he uses the Force a great deal).

I think the more interesting question about Ti plastic is how it breaks in with time and use. Unfortunately, we'll be waiting a while for a robust answer....and of course, the longer we wait, the more we'll know.

[Frank Delicious]

isn't less stable = more straighter or do you mean something else?

[BLURR]

I had a chance to check out the Ti Force and Buzzz this past weekend. The Force was definitely less stable than a normal Z or ESP. But, the nose seems a touch sharper in shape than a normal Z or ESP. Seemed very fast. The Buzzz, seemeed to be similar to a good stable glo z or 2nd FR. Pretty stable for a buzzz.

[jubuttib]

isn't less stable = more straighter or do you mean something else?

In JHern talk (i.e. scientific) straight would mean neutral would mean as stable as it gets.

[JHern]

isn't less stable = more straighter or do you mean something else?

In JHern talk (i.e. scientific) straight would mean neutral would mean as stable as it gets.

Um, I think stablest=straightest is universally accepted. Think about the word "stable" for a second.