TEEBIRD Varieties?

[La Flama Blanca]

Well before I get accused of not doing a proper thread search, I have went through all the threads pertaining to Teebirds and really haven't found the answer I am looking for. So, sorry if this is redundant of another post, but I am tired of searching...

So, I have been FH/OH (350' to 390' avg.) dominate in my driving for several years now since I started playing. This year I am finally going to commit to improving my BH, and using it as often as possible for driving duties instead of just with my mids and putters. I know practicing technique with mids and especially putters is the best way to improve my form...blah, blah, but I can't be throwing an Aviar off the tee on a 300' hole in actual game play, thus my need for a BH fairway driver. When driving BH, I currently throw a C-TD, S-TD, P-PD and S-TD... I am starting to think these may be a tad too fast for me to achieve any distance until I can increase my power and improve form. So, I am looking at getting a few Teebirds to throw in the bag. I want to add a Teebird and a TL to compliment it...

My options are:
Teebird (any plastic)
Teebird+ (champ)
TL (star)
TL+ (champ)

I don't really have a preference but am curious how the +molds flight differs from non+molds, and what plastic/rim do you prefer in both the TB and TL?
Any suggestions are greatly appreciated... Please help me make up my mind so I don't have to buy 10 discs to figure it out.

[Frank Delicious]

My favorite teebird variety is the Eagle.

Seriously though, get a couple of different ones in a few plastics and test them out. I think the champ TL probably won't fit your bag too well as you can make a C-TD do every shot the champ TL does. Star teebirds are super versatile and of course DX teebirds are the bomb. I know plenty of people who like the glow champ teebird+ since they are less stable than normal champ teebirds and are easier to throw when new.

[La Flama Blanca]

Thanks Frank. Isn't the C-TD roughly two steps up in speed from the TB or TL though? My main concern is that I am maybe not getting the PDs/TDs up to cruising speed thus losing a ton of potential distance... This is the reason I am looking at adding a TB and TL because they are a tad slower.

[inthedrift]

Try out some DX Gazelles. They are great fairway drivers and will help you improve your BH technique.

[Frank Delicious]

The C-TD is faster but powers down pretty well. Anyway yeah get some DX teebirds and maybe a star teebird and TL.

[turso]

I do think DX Teebird is the Teebird to go for, they're ssssweeeeeet.

[JHern]

Try out some DX Gazelles. They are great fairway drivers and will help you improve your BH technique.

Exactly. Pair it with a DX Leopard, and you'll be set for awhile.

[victorb]

get some DX teebirds and maybe a star teebird

this is exactly what I'd recommend too. base plastic cannot be undervalued in molds like the teebird. star tbs are really nice too, and beat in a little better than the champ plastics.

[La Flama Blanca]

Not a fan of DX plastic for drivers, but I will give one a shot. What's everyone's take on the plus mold? I know it's just the slanted rim, but does it change flight characteristics? Which rim type is preferred, or is it just a matter of personal preference?

[victorb]

the teebird was made for dx plastic, and flies and holds up very well.

I personally don't throw anything with the plus rim, it doesn't allow me to grip the disc properly and the disc slips out early more often than not. I think it is intended to make the disc more gyroscopic by placing more weight on the outer rim. I couldn't tell a difference in stability between a tb and tb+ because I couldn't get a good release.

[Frank Delicious]

I think the + rim is personal preference. You either like it or don't.

[UnitedPuppySlayer]

This is just a personal observation/opinion, but I feel that the + mold adds stability to it. My TL+ is pretty damn stable if you ask me. I have a TB+ on the way too. I'm hoping it's just as stable so I can replace my 11x molds with a current run so I don't have to spend as much time and money finding a replacement.

[AikoAdam]

I like Star TeeBirds over the champ for (as said above) versatility and how they beat in. If you don't like the dx (which are great for tb's) I would go Star.

[JHern]

The TB+ mold was designed to reproduce the shape that some of the most over-stable TBs had when they came out of the press. For example, some of the glow champ TBs came out this way a couple years back. People liked these a great deal, since they begin over-stable and then beat in straighter and straighter with time.

For somebody with slower arm speed, I think the TB is still too fast, and the TB+ is too over-stable.

I would seriously suggest getting a Leopard or similar, something you can learn to turn and shape lines with BH.

[jubuttib]

The TB+ mold was designed to reproduce the shape that some of the most over-stable TBs had when they came out of the press. For example, some of the glow champ TBs came out this way a couple years back. People liked these a great deal, since they begin over-stable and then beat in straighter and straighter with time.

For somebody with slower arm speed, I think the TB is still too fast, and the TB+ is too over-stable.

I would seriously suggest getting a Leopard or similar, something you can learn to turn and shape lines with BH.

I thought the reason was because Dave D. liked a thicker, beefier grip, and that the +mold allowed them to add volume to the mold without changing the official specs, so that they could mold max weight discs with less weighting agent and produce clearer discs.