Timko wrote:I was talking with a friend this weekend, and he was really raving about the top design of the new Discnation baskets. He said the diamond shaped connection that connects the chains to the top allows for a good range of motion. Do both the Liberty and the Freedom have this top design? Aside from the inner assembly, are there any differences in these baskets?
yo yo yo. posting from my official marketing chair, please excuse my lack of cursing.
alright, so the baskets are a 16-chain (Freedom) and a 24-chain (Liberty). the only difference between the two is the number of branches on the chain harness. sliders, branches, all that is from the same design concept for both baskets. all the hardware and add-ons are interchangeable as well. Freedom has 16 outer chains, Liberty has 12 inner and 12 outer. all the hardware is powder-coated, and the chain is galvanized. chain weight is on par with what you'd find in recreational targets, not quite as heavy as the DB-5, DisCatcher Pro, etc. but very much in line with the DisCatcher Sport, ChainMaster, etc.
both baskets share the diamond-head slider design, which i freakin love. my input began with testing the first prototype, and the diamond sliders were there from the beginning. i feel that there's a very narrow way to strike the chain (dead-on, centered on the disc, and high on the links) that prevents it from sliding and therefore kicking out. for the most part, almost any strike will result in the chains sliding. the downward angle plus the diamond shape lend a little resistance, but also allows the chain to slide vertically and laterally. honestly i don't know who came up with that specific design point, but it's my favorite thing on the basket.
here's an old photo album on FB that includes some close-ups of the hardware. please note that the Liberty photographed in that album was the 1st production run, which differed in the cage assembly. (explained below)http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 127&type=3
and here's a photo i took just now.. these are some photo models i have on hand.
so as it says, the above photo is of 2nd Runs. with a change in PDGA guidelines, we had to narrow the gap between bands on the cage wall to prevent wedgies. the 2nd Run of both basket have two middle bands, whereas you can see in the FB pics the 1st Runs had only one middle band. this change allows the 2nd Run Liberty to be Championship Certified; both baskets are PDGA-legal from 1st run forward. we're going into a 3rd run with, i believe, all the same specs from the 2nd run.
and as you'd see on the website, the optional add-ons are a number plate with flag holder and vinyl number kit, a full in-ground kit (sleeve and anchor), and extra in-ground anchors for multiple pins.
lemme know if y'all have any further questions about them.