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z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby phatbeater » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:35 pm

Hey guys I'm looking for one of these for an upshot disc. i seem to have worn out my flx challenger it turns over really easily, time to retire it :( i would love the pro d for upshots but would like one that holds stability much longer. which of these have the stability of the pro d? And also is the flx z plastic different from the cryztal z in anyway? Thanks in advance for the help.
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Putter: 175g flx challenger, 2x175g softapx, 2x175 pro-d challenger
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby vtbuzzz » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:21 pm

New flx challenger, why change a good thing
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby Frank Delicious » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:47 pm

vtbuzzz wrote:New flx challenger, why change a good thing


this is always the answer.
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby keltik » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:30 pm

ESP Zone?
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby phatbeater » Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:04 pm

Well the flx version isnt as os as the d challengers andthe zone is a bit too os for what I'm looking for. the flx challenger that i have is still a good disc dont get me wrong but its outlived its purpose. I am just looking for one of these versions that lasts longer and is a bit more os.
Driver: 175g z stalker, 2x174g surge, 174g z predator, 174g flx Avenger SS, 174g esp pulse, 174g z force
Mid-range: 178g FLX, Z, TI buzzz, 177g z wasp, 177 flx drone, 177g meteor
Putter: 175g flx challenger, 2x175g softapx, 2x175 pro-d challenger
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby phatbeater » Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:06 pm

And keltik dont think it hasnt crossed my mind but i already have a drone and havent needed a zone just yet. i will purchase eventually though for side arm upshots
Driver: 175g z stalker, 2x174g surge, 174g z predator, 174g flx Avenger SS, 174g esp pulse, 174g z force
Mid-range: 178g FLX, Z, TI buzzz, 177g z wasp, 177 flx drone, 177g meteor
Putter: 175g flx challenger, 2x175g softapx, 2x175 pro-d challenger
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby Frank Delicious » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:11 pm

The challenger just isn't really an overstable putter anymore. It's a pretty straight disc in all of it's plastics. Get a focus or banger or something if you want a DC putter that is more overstable.

Or maybe work on working the challenger on hyzer lines. It will hold them, you just got to learn how to throw it.
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby colombo117 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:29 pm

I agree about it not being overstable. It will hold any line you put it on. I like how versatile it is. Like any good putter should be.

I have never owned a z Challenger.

I started carrying an ion for approach shots when I need more durability.

Ions and pro d challengers for the win!
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby Flipflat » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:13 pm

If you want to try a Banger, I can ship you a 8.5/10 pink soft for $6.
I would like your X-Wasps, please.
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby keltik » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:14 pm

I feel ya. the Ion can do it. Or you could try a VP, Wizard KC Aviar etc. I don't know if you want just DC.

and did they stable out the Focuses? The Ace Race ones I have are kinda flippy.
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby Frank Delicious » Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:53 pm

The couple I had for a while were BB DX aviar stable.
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby keltik » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:17 pm

Well they are a Wizard copy from hell so you would think they would be stable.
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby phatbeater » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:49 pm

Well idk bout them not being os anymore. the pro d concave ones that i got are pretty os. not crazy bit just what i wanted. i own a banger and i like the challenger way more. I'm only interested in the knowledge of the topic. Not to be rude but the thread is getting a bit offtopic. thanks for the input though.
Driver: 175g z stalker, 2x174g surge, 174g z predator, 174g flx Avenger SS, 174g esp pulse, 174g z force
Mid-range: 178g FLX, Z, TI buzzz, 177g z wasp, 177 flx drone, 177g meteor
Putter: 175g flx challenger, 2x175g softapx, 2x175 pro-d challenger
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby Frank Delicious » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:57 pm

Well to answer the "which has the stability of a pro-d" question. Both. The cryztals and the Z I have throw a lot like the pro-ds I have. The challenger is one of the more consistently run discs throughout the plastics as they all seem to throw about the same for me. I would really work on just figuring out disc manipulation for upshots if you don't want a different disc.
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Re: z challenger or cryztal z challenger?

Postby Frank Delicious » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:58 pm

Also super used beat up putters are pretty much the most useful and best discs in your bag and make the best upshot discs.
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