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Postby krusen » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:53 am

I bought a 169 ESP Surge with some of my winnings from a tourney last weekend.

I took it out to the field last night with a somewhat seasoned 171 Pro Wraith and a seasoned 172 X Avenger to compare it to.

It's a bit more stable than I expected. I had to put some anhyzer on it to get any kind of distance. (I max about 360' on a golf line) I was putting the wraith out the farthest of the three with a little anhyzer release. When I bought the Avenger I was throwing it dead straight with a little fade right out of the box.

I guess I would say that the Surge is very similar to the Wraith as far as I can tell. It sure moves a lot right to left during the fade, and will probably make a pretty good distance driver after some tough love.
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Postby twmccoy » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:42 am

I have a 174 ESP that is just like a wraith in terms of stability and glide. Very good disc and I wish I had a lighter one. Problem is these are rare and no one is throwing them in the lakes.

BTW, mine is first run, not sure if that means much.
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Postby Granduter » Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:17 am

I have found my esp surge will fly a bit high speed understable for me, I don't remember my pro wraith doing that until it finally got beat a bit.
I prefer my surge though for distance over the wraith
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Postby Tanner » Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:31 pm

Lost my ESP surge today. Probably going to go out and buy a new one! I loved that disc. Mine went super fast and straight with a hard hook at the end. Well worth it.
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Postby Amateur » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:01 am

I bought a 170g Z Surge at the last tourney I went to. I pretty much fell in love. It is the longest controlled distance disc I have ever thrown. You guys compare it to a Wraith, I have never been able to throw a Wraith like this. It has replaced my Avengers and Pro Starfire. For me, nothing is longer and still puts me in my 30ft circle.

What I love most about this disc is I can throw it dead nuts straight and it gently fades left at the end, I can throw big sweep hyzers, or I can throw a big ole S and have it turn exactly where I want it to.

I'm gushing now :oops: . I just haven't been this excited about any disc since I learned how to throw my Wizard.
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Postby Arm Of Despair » Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:57 am

I'm with you about the Z Surge Amateur. I recently bought an ESP Pulse and ESP Surge from Gotta Go, Gotta Throw, and they sent me a Z Surge (170) instead of the ESP. Not being one to quibble (and dieing to go throw new plastic), I went flying it and it is exactly as you stated, long and controllable. Is now my go-to driver.
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