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I bought a 169 ESP Surge with some of my winnings from a tourney last weekend.
I took it out to the field last night with a somewhat seasoned 171 Pro Wraith and a seasoned 172 X Avenger to compare it to.
It's a bit more stable than I expected. I had to put some anhyzer on it to get any kind of distance. (I max about 360' on a golf line) I was putting the wraith out the farthest of the three with a little anhyzer release. When I bought the Avenger I was throwing it dead straight with a little fade right out of the box.
I guess I would say that the Surge is very similar to the Wraith as far as I can tell. It sure moves a lot right to left during the fade, and will probably make a pretty good distance driver after some tough love.
- Tree Magnet
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I have a 174 ESP that is just like a wraith in terms of stability and glide. Very good disc and I wish I had a lighter one. Problem is these are rare and no one is throwing them in the lakes.
BTW, mine is first run, not sure if that means much.
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I have found my esp surge will fly a bit high speed understable for me, I don't remember my pro wraith doing that until it finally got beat a bit.
I prefer my surge though for distance over the wraith
- Tree Magnet
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Lost my ESP surge today. Probably going to go out and buy a new one! I loved that disc. Mine went super fast and straight with a hard hook at the end. Well worth it.
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I bought a 170g Z Surge at the last tourney I went to. I pretty much fell in love. It is the longest controlled distance disc I have ever thrown. You guys compare it to a Wraith, I have never been able to throw a Wraith like this. It has replaced my Avengers and Pro Starfire. For me, nothing is longer and still puts me in my 30ft circle.
What I love most about this disc is I can throw it dead nuts straight and it gently fades left at the end, I can throw big sweep hyzers, or I can throw a big ole S and have it turn exactly where I want it to.
I'm gushing now
. I just haven't been this excited about any disc since I learned how to throw my Wizard.
- MMMM drop your juicy 'maters in my gaping maw
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I'm with you about the Z Surge Amateur. I recently bought an ESP Pulse and ESP Surge from Gotta Go, Gotta Throw, and they sent me a Z Surge (170) instead of the ESP. Not being one to quibble (and dieing to go throw new plastic), I went flying it and it is exactly as you stated, long and controllable. Is now my go-to driver.
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