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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby JR » Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:20 pm

The Warship will flip at 315' based on two examples and the glide is the reason why there is some lateral movement in the end. It starts latd though. So if it is going off intl brush it will be close to the green.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby Stringbean » Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:18 am

JR wrote:The Warship will flip at 315' based on two examples and the glide is the reason why there is some lateral movement in the end. It starts latd though. So if it is going off intl brush it will be close to the green.


Yes, that is what I am seeing... it almost looks like it gets a second wind very late in the flight and then a big forward fade. My first few throws with the Truth were the same way.
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby JR » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:38 am

I got a player's package EC2014 GL Fuse and it is way more hss than the at release bought GL and Opto that i have had. Those turn on me and the EC2014 version does not. i loaned the FR ESP Comet of Smigles and it was way more hss than my second runs and i could not flip it at power. The EC2014 GL Fuse is similar in that it does not make me nervous about flipping or knowing what it will do when i throw it. It stays flat for a long time so it will not deviate from the line easily and if it does it will be late and very little. Because the disc is fast for a mid and even glidier and it likes to stay flat for the most of the flight it stays on the line about ass long as anything being one of the longest mids in existence. If current Fuses of production runs are like that there is a FR ESP Comet replacement available at the shope in production now. Sweet! I smell a trip to the local shop coming up to comapre the EC Fuse to production ones :-D Might have to stock up. It performed well for me and Smigles with annies and nicely for me on hyzers. Smigles went nooo when i putted with it. Just don't tell him that i speed gofled the EC course with it and a Northman alone so guess with which i putted ;-)
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby Stringbean » Tue Aug 26, 2014 8:55 pm

Who is Smigles?
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby JR » Wed Aug 27, 2014 9:23 am

He is a DGR member from Switzerland.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby JR » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:31 am

Missilen is slick but less so in the flat part of the top. It drops with 80 degree hyzer on higher full powered throws. Super beefy and power hungry. Trick disc or for days that you know your form is off and you need a crutch to avoid torquing over. Better for 450'+ than 400' throwers. Short. Finishes left -far left and skips a ton.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby JR » Tue Sep 16, 2014 9:58 pm

Did a one disc round with the recycled Fuse in calm to mild winds. The course had some too long holes for me. Or so i thought. In practice i parked a 323'' hole with a two foot uphill. The other one that i reached bit me. It is a say 8-9' downhill with rear wind pushing the disc farther. Because the disc flippied on me at full power i gave it hyzer. The hole is 360' and i was 34' short to a downhill green with no grass from traffic. I started with an achy arm so i knew that it was not gonna work normally and i had a putt slip and an approach slip earlier and the arm was getting nasty on me. At seven birdies and two bogeys it was a good round considering the two drives that i missed hyzer earlier expecting the wind to flip the disc when it did not happen. Iirc i have once thrown 8 birdies on that course so i went for the record on this the 16th hole. And my arm crapped out on me for a slip left of the basket. Of course a gliding fast disc on a downhill without grass goes far so from behind trees my putt transformed a birdie run into a bogey. Meh. But normally i would not have attacked it with that disc or at all with the arm being spent so no worries.

Afterwards i threw my Opto and the recycled on a soccer field. And the Opto is more hss. So even better in the wind. At full tilt the recycled flipped 3-4 degrees and the Opto 2. The fade seems to be the same. I did not bring the EC2014 Fuse because why would i use it when regular ones fly well? The Opto is tacky enough for approaches and drives even for me when it is not wet and the temps were around 16-18 C.

Can you see that i love them? I threw the recycled mostly flat during the round because it starts to flip only at speed. It needs a good plane preservation though and no wrist rolling.
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby Jeronimo » Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:59 am

Yeah, the Recycled versions of their popular molds are pretty interesting. Personally I love the feel of the plastic, but what i'm finding is when brand new they fly like a slightly more overstable version of their opto/gold version, but then they quickly break in to a more understable version than the opto mold. Final state is probably pretty similar to worn in gold line. It's particularly annoying to me because I think the way those discs molded up was perfect. For example, a brand new Recycled Saint flies like a Gold Line Saint Pro, it's beautiful... The Pure's, Fuses, Saints, and Halos got a perfect gradual dome that really gives them a little extra glide (IMHO) though admittedly makes some of them (I'm looking at you Pures) a little awkward to grip. Even the Claymores seem to have started more overstable in Recycled line than they are in Opto though many reports now are saying they're getting quite flippy.

Major bummer on the Opto Claymores from most accounts. Not stable enough to be the Latitude Buzzz and almost as understable as a Fuse with a much stronger fade. I was really hoping for something to launch flat and have it fly 300' flat, before it faded out ever so slightly. I had hoped this mold would replace the Core, but it really sounds like its going to be the same as the Cores I came to know and hate. Maybe there's hope for a Claymore Pro?
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Re: Latitude 64°

Postby JR » Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:13 pm

My domey Recycled Fuse is less hss than my Opto Fuse that is flatter at the top. Often mids are less hss with a taller dome. Rocs are a good example of that. Those Fuses are not equal with other shapes than the dome though so i cannot say for sure that the dome on this mold influences hss significantly. If anything the Opto has a lower plh but off the top of my head i cannot remember which disc has a more concave wing. The Opto iirc has a blunter nose and the shoulders differ too just like rim height. A different flight is not surprising.

What is really nice is that these different discs fly so well and under powered to say 200-280' they do not flip too much or at all if you start slow and snap hard with very little fade. So in calm weather they fly very much the same. With that said the Opto has more safety margin.
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