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How many 3rd run ESPs will you buy?

1
9
13%
2
13
19%
3
9
13%
4
9
13%
5
5
7%
6-10
13
19%
10+... as many as my favorite store has in stock
5
7%
all the pink ones I can find :)
7
10%
 
Total votes : 70

Re: Comet lovers

Postby JR » Sat May 17, 2014 7:13 am

I noticed less oat with bowed fingers for sure. It might come from a grip that holds the disc more securely because for my short fingers there is more leverage against the rim so the disc does not wobble as easily because of the disc changing angles within the grip alone. That is how flimsy straight finger grip is for me at full power even with Bennett ring finger and pinky.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Comet lovers

Postby JR » Sun May 18, 2014 12:24 pm

After noticing that i was pushing my fingers too far into discs fh thanks to hammer pound drill the bead on my 2nd run ESP and Z still felt worrying. It was too windy and i had pounded my arm out with too little warming up with drivers into headwinds. So with headwinds and aches the results were bad. Much later and hurting even more rear wind approaches were unclean and i do not wonder why. It hurt to reach back much. So other than the ESP flipping in rear winds and Z fading (blasphemy) on higher lower powered throws both looked likethe reverse of underpowered bhs. I just could not get enough throws in feeling good into rear winds so i need to test them later. They looked tempting and terrifying just like Comets do those that are learning. Fh i am. 300' is rare for me.

During the fh disc testing part 3 with 60 discs having been thrown i learned more about grip and wrist flicking body control and flights became more manipulable and subtle differences between discs became less meaningful just like it happens bh. Comet are so outside of normal flight characteristics that they create bag building issues if their difficulty can be overcome. Normal rules of bag building may not apply. The Comet steps on so many toes overlapping many different types of discs. In rear winds it competes with short fws in distance.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Comet lovers

Postby Working Stiff » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:19 pm

I really have not been throwing mids at all. My home course is a tweener park with holes long enough for a driver but once you drive you are in putter territory, so the mids ride around in the bag. We are playing a safari course for league, which is shorter and brought out the mids. Tonight I had a 220' slight downhill shot with a relatively low ceiling; I had a 178g X Comet in my bag that I got in a trade Saturday and had never thrown. I put it on a low line with a slight hyzer, and the disc went dead-nuts straight with a slight OAT wobble and slid right under the pin.

My partner had left early so I had Cali throw. I took a 177g Z Comet and took a chance on a slightly higher line trying to throw it in pin high and who cares if it goes long. I got it up too high but it rode just below the tree limbs and out clear past the basket where there was a longer drop off and ended up 160' past the pin. 380' downhill on a nice easy 70% pull with a bit of hyzer, which is really long for me even factoring in the dropoff.

I love Comets. I should throw them more often.
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Comet lovers

Postby Tree Knocker » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:06 pm

I didn't read every page but how do the glo comet perform?
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Re: Comet lovers

Postby JR » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:43 am

I wish i knew. Glo Z Buzzzes and Stalkers are usually noticeably more OS than regular Z versions and if the same is true of the Comet i think i may want one :-) I test tossed a FR ESP Comet of smigles and that thing is radically better than 2nd runs or Zs in that thrown cleanly it does not flip. I like Latitude 64 Fuse with a blunt nose, concave wing and a fairly flat top in Opto but it flips about 2-3 degrees at my full power. It is much more neutral than the early Fuses i had. Unfortunately it is no match for the safety of the FR ESP Comet in that it resists flipping way more. The bad thing is that they are not easily available. The Comet may have a few feet of extra distance on the Fuse as well but the Fuse is the closest mid in distance to the Comet out of wide discs. Of the small driver like diameter mids Coyotes are a hair longer but unfortunately they flip even more. Or it can be a good thing for versatility if you build the bag properly and do not rely solely on the Coyote for mid duty and help it with a beefier disc.
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Re: Comet lovers

Postby SkaBob » Wed Apr 29, 2015 8:36 am

Wow...this thread is still on the first page? Nice!

The Glow comets are more overstable than the normal Z Comets, by a pretty decent margin. A bit more like a Buzz SS, but not quite all the way there. I throw them when I want to REALLY crank on a shot, and not have to worry about flipping it too much.

I still prefer the normal Z Comets for every day use. After losing something like 8 Comets over the course of a summer (they're like Frank's Red Hot sauce... I throw that shit on everything!), I'm still struggling to get any beat in enough to call any of them my workhorse, so I use an ESP one to emulate a worn in Z one. Works pretty well, but it's easy to get past the disc, and end up right of target.
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Re: Comet lovers

Postby JR » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:48 pm

At the European Championships i threw a first run Comet that is way more hss than any other Comet i have thrown. Does not flip at my full power. Blunt edged flattest examples of Lat Fuses are about as long though i have thrown second run ESP farther and flip a couple of degrees. That may flip enough for you out of the box. No bead.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Comet lovers

Postby JR » Mon Jun 15, 2015 11:33 am

Got a Glo Z 173-174 Comet that in pretty bad winds needed some 5 degrees of hyzer to flip up to flat. It is the most HSS one i have and the only one i can nut with a ful speed run up. I have thrown a non turning FR Comet of Smigles and so this is still a far cry from that but an improvement over my others and this one gives the best Fuses a run for their money. The longest toss was 335' straight line. Likey. That was with my new tendonitis support on. I did not feel any shorter with the support with a light Bliz Boss s-curving to 433' landing at about 425' with rear wind assist though and an s-curve. So the speed was almost out at landing. Not exactly a normal throw and a golfable one. But considerin lost power due to ailments not too shabby. Well longer than anything this year.

The disc was the flattest topped one with the highest PLH out of about 10. IME Comets get more HSS with flatter tops. The edge seemed as blunt as any others and the wing concavity was similar to most regular Z Comets. The shop had no heavier ones so gotta get me a new supplier of a max weighted one. Drooling at the idea :mrgreen:

I got no wobblies or aberrant tosses with a two finger power grip so the releases were nice. The grip felt friendlier than ever. The longest throws were past my Fuse record. With a pretty high percentage.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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Re: Comet lovers

Postby JR » Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:40 am

Less wind some tosses in calm and this Glo Z Comet 173-174 rocks. Well i tossed everything short today with less wind to no wind. Biking may be the problem and so could the arm brace. 300' tops only. Which is 30'+ 40' exactly IIRC short of the previous time with rear wind. The great thing was reduced need for initial hyzer. Maybe 3 degrees in calm conditions and it would fade late and little not moving a lot to the left with great height variations so only distance is effected by the apex height. So a nice safety blanket against that particular problem. Stand still 250' 2 degree anny flexed to flat with 7' apex. FH with flipped 0 with wrist flick only to 100' and more power means initial hyzer need. 170' needs something like 4 degrees of hyzer. I did not try to go for more D.

So less hss than a FR Comet but available with about the same HSS and maybe a hair less LSS than Opto Fuse with no idea of D difference because no head to head comparison yet. Earlier a different non FR Comet flew to 350' which is over 20' more than my Fuses. This Comet went to 340' in rear wind the last time and only 300' today but everything was well short for me today.

As soon as the wind of 6 MPH tops came the initial hyzer need got from 3 to 5 degrees for a flat flight. No biggie and non ruinous sideways movements if the angle was missed between the wind requirements. A reliable Comet is the first one for me when it comes going down a path out of the ones i have owned. If FRs were reliably available i would be disappointed but now i am overjoyed.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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