avenger and surge throwers

[Fritz]

I"m gonan stick witht eh Special Blend Orc, I was informed by Dave from Innova after worlds the SB Orc will be in full release in Star Plastic. It's gonan be pretty much the same thing, so I'm jsut gonna stick with that.

[Blake_T]

aside from the fact that by avoiding the champ starfire and z avenger you are avoiding discs that are true stable vs. the sb orc which is "plastic stable" on a naturally understable mold.

[Fritz]

aside from the fact that by avoiding the champ starfire and z avenger you are avoiding discs that are true stable vs. the sb orc which is "plastic stable" on a naturally understable mold.

Champ Starfire is still in my bag, I thoguht you said that was for medium to heavy headwind?

[Blake_T]

light to moderate.

[Fritz]

light to moderate.

ahhh...well then

[Bradley Walker]

I think the X-Pred is the best.

The Surge is like a Sidewinder+, but I like it. Just leave it at home when there is any real wind blowing.

A broken in X-Pred is like a fast DX Teebird, but is actually less nose sensitive, more predictable in the wind, and just as long.

I played a round the other day with a Surge (long glides), two X Preds (166-straight and 170-headwind) three Cyclones, a Roc, an X-Aviar, and my PA Aviar putter.

I like this the best so far. Not a nose senstive disc in the bunch.

[Thatdirtykid]

surge is fairly nose angle sensitive, its just understable enough for alot of people to get it to hold a turn. Genereally the faster a disc gets the more nose angle sensitive it will be.

[Bradley Walker]

surge is fairly nose angle sensitive, its just understable enough for alot of people to get it to hold a turn. Genereally the faster a disc gets the more nose angle sensitive it will be.

That is generally true, but not always.

A predator is super stable but not as nose sensitive as a Teebird (for me at least). The Tracker is more nose sensitive than an Eagle, but is no more stable and is actually slower.

No, some discs are just BETTER.