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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby cmlasley » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:44 pm

:oops: :mrgreen:

It didn't seem that long when I was typing it.
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby Working Stiff » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:43 pm

cmlasley wrote:Unfortunately, a lot of players say that a disc is stable when they mean overstable.
People do that so often I don't even notice when it happens.

One of my good friends does this, but he changes his inflection and emphasizes it more and more as the disc gets more overstable. He will actually say sentences like "A Viking is stable, but a Firebird is STABLE! He still can't figure out why that confuses the Hell out of everybody.
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby sleepy » Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:28 am

cmlasley wrote:It didn't seem that long when I was typing it.

Heh, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant that it was a very informative and definitive, and that for all intents and purposes the thread is pretty much over after your post.

But, this is a Roc thread on DGR, so we all know that won't really be the case. :lol:


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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby JR » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:12 am

sleepy wrote:
cmlasley wrote:It didn't seem that long when I was typing it.

Heh, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant that it was a very informative and definitive, and that for all intents and purposes the thread is pretty much over after your post.

But, this is a Roc thread on DGR, so we all know that won't really be the case. :lol:


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Was that my cue to write a long post? No I'm late somebody else already got the long post comment... :-)
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby Working Stiff » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:25 pm

I'm dismayed at this negativity about Roc threads.

Hey, we are disc golfers who talk about golf discs. New guys come one here and ask questions. ALL of them will have been told that they need to throw a Roc. ALL of them are confused what the (bleep) the difference is between a Classic Roc, a San Marino Roc, an Ontario Roc, a Rancho Roc, a KC Roc, and those confounded $100+ Champ Rocs. We need to be here for them.

For us to refuse to answer questions about Rocs and posting a sticky is like a doctor saying "I'm tired of all these damn people coming to me with the flu and wasting my time. Just put a note on the door telling them to stay in bed and drink O.J. until they feel better." You might be able to figure that out from reading Web M.D., but you want the doctor to see you and talk directly to you.

We are disc doctors, and the Roc is a flu bug that will never go away. If the endless deluge of Roc threads drive you crazy, don't post on them. I will, I don't mind. I can talk about Rocs all day! :P
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby dgdave » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:59 pm

Sorry, stiff. It won't happen again

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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby tumpsi » Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:45 pm

I'd appreciate the Bible of Rocs. And Aviars.
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby Working Stiff » Mon Oct 27, 2008 10:21 am

tumpsi wrote:I'd appreciate the Bible of Rocs. And Aviars.
Ha! I've always wondered why I hear people complain about Rocs being confusing when there are at least as many (if not more) versions of the Aviar floating around out there. Somehow all those different Aviars don't seem to be a problem, but three Roc molds keep people awake at night.

We could do a sticky on explaining the different mold changes to Innova discs. Actually, now that I think about it, with the space that would take we might need to start an entirely new web site. :P

But you are right, I think a sticky will help a lot of people since some people really will not post and just come here to look stuff up. I really just don't like the trend of jumping down people's throat about doing a search before posting. New guys are going to make redundant posts, that is just the way it is. But a Roc sticky will help, since part of the problem is that when you search for "Roc" it brings up every thread on this site!
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby sleepy » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:10 am

Working Stiff wrote:I'm dismayed at this negativity about Roc threads.

I have no negativity towards Roc threads. I just thought the picture was fitting. :P


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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby Bradley Walker » Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:26 am

Oh, DX Roc!!!

Why can't I quit you????

I try and try and I just keep coming back...

When I throw the DX Roc, I actually impress myself sometimes. The Champ/Star Rancho Rocs are great for open high wind courses, but nothing beats the DX Rancho and DX San Marino when the tunnels get tight and the glide needs to be straight.

I played in C tier yesterday and I grabbed a new 180 gram DX San Marino out of my spare bag and played the whole tourney with that one Roc. I banged one out of the basket at 300 feet.

So, for my payout I grabbed some totally awesome DX Ranchos (this new DX plastic is kind of awesome). I have two San Marinos.
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby disc_golfing_fool » Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:10 pm

I Like Rocs. :D
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby felixtibs » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:00 pm

I bought a Dx multi purpose roc from Marshall street last month. Is this an ontario roc?
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby dgdave » Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:44 pm

Rancho. Look at the engraving on the back. It will have the address and that tells the mold
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby rehder » Mon Nov 03, 2008 11:09 am

I just thought about some very simple guidance for Roc's.

If you throw under 300feet with rocs(distance lines dont count) = Play with any DX Roc
1) The differences in the different molds can be quite subtle, and you will most likely appreciate the difference more, the better your technique is.
2) Normal DX Rocs (which are Ranchos atm.) can be beat in to do the same thing the other Rocs can, it will just take a little longer.
3) The best Roc mold is the current mold (because it can be used in place of the others when worn in), and when new can be used for some nice headwind hyzers
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Re: Rancho and San Marino Rocs

Postby Jsw » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:41 pm

I'm late to this show, but I feel like adding something.

If you haven't tried an Ontario Roc yet, DO IT. I have 4 rocs - 3 Ranchos and 1 ontario. I was very "Ehh...'' originally about the thought of a Roc that wasn't the standard mold. But I got it for free so I figured why not give it a whirl - and I'm glad I did. It is $$$ for smooth turnover shots. It glides forever. Its a much gentler turn than my most beat in Rancho - and for some reason its just a lot easier to shape turn over lines with. And don't worry about it turning into crap too early in DX. Mine is DX and I throw it quite a bit. Yes it has lost some stability but it was very gradual and I'm positive it will be usable for just as long as a ''standard'' Rancho Roc would last. As long as you know how to release it. I would recommend it getting it heavy(mine is 180g) though because it helps keep the break-in gradual IMO.
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