Blake_T wrote:btw, i'm not disagreeing as i believe those 4 discs are a pain in the azz to throw well all the time, but i'm mainly curious as to what aspects of them that you feel make them that way.
We need a word to describe "pain in the azz". I feel this is an apt description, afterall.
Some discs want to shoot UP off the plane of the throw, but not all the time. Making extremely precise placement in the sky impossible.
Theree is another aspect to usablitiy I look for. That is speed sensitivity.
Blake_T wrote:In contrast, if you rip a straight ahead hyzer flip, any slight change in left/right or in the nose angle will yield huge changes in how the air pocket forms as well as what height the disc will lift to to apex.
So instead of heysering the disc more, I spin it more (say into the wind). The more spin, the more high speed stability. The goal is always to throw as FLAT as is POSSIBLE.
Blake_T wrote:an example is trying to throw an aviar 300'. if you catch no air pocket off the tee, you have 2 choices:
1) throwing flat with very little lift (this will apex under 10' of height) and pulling up well short of 300'
2) throwing a wide high anhyzer that needs 50' of height and about 50' of left/right (or more) to work.
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