Blake_T wrote:i looked for new things that caught my interest. 96-97 is when i discovered braid's the age of octeen, the promise ring's 30 degrees everywhere, giants chair's purity and control, cursive's such blinding stars for starving eyes, rainer maria's past worn searching, compound red's first 4 7", boys life's self-titled, hot water music's forever and counting, very secretary's best possible souvenir, etc. and i found that stuff infinitely more interesting than the indie rock that was being spit out at the time.
A whole lot of stuff released on Asian Man Records.
I think that maybe your definition of indie rock is different than most people's. Although they often get tagged emo for lack of a better term, Braid, The Promise Ring, and Cursive all fall squarely under indie rock.
Blake_T wrote:A whole lot of stuff released on Asian Man Records.
most asian man releases miss the 1995 cut date
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Blake_T wrote:the great divide back in the day between the bands that were emo then but considered indie now is what scene they were playing shows in. indie rock = play bars and cater towards 21-30 year olds. emo = play only all ages shows at venues that don't serve booze since its roots are the straight edge hardcore scene. emo = abbreviation for emo-core = abbreviation for emotional hardcore.
Blake_T wrote:in all honesty i'm surprised no one has tried to decry my statement of pavement's slanted & enchanted in favor of crooked rain crooked rain or wowee zowee.
Oh shit, then Fugazi is emo! Roots in the straight edge hardcore scene? Hell, Minor Threat pretty much started it! All ages shows? Always!
Uh, don't bring up Rites of Spring
For me, indie rock is just... independent rock. That could mean a band that is DIY, on an independent label, or even a band on a major label that does its own thing and has its own distinct sound. Its like rock music in general, there are many forms of it and subgenres galore.
Nah, Slanted & Enchanted is probably the best front to back Pavement album, although both the others you listed have some great songs.
every album after that got less and less appealing to me as they got away from that raw sound.
Blake_T wrote:Oh shit, then Fugazi is emo! Roots in the straight edge hardcore scene? Hell, Minor Threat pretty much started it! All ages shows? Always!
Uh, don't bring up Rites of Spring :D
in the late 90's/early 00's the first 3 emo records were considered to be from embrace, one last wish, and rites of spring, all of which had guy or ian from fugazi.
Blake_T wrote:that is a more modern definition. in 92-94 indie rock was a sub-genre of alternative to give it some differentiation from more traditional alternative music and punk rock. most bands called indie had a lot of commonalities... low fi recordings that were mixed with the guitars really high and vocals really low (partly due to budget, partly to keep it from sounding like an over-produced major label release), etc. these were usually bands on merge records, alias records, touch & go, etc. when someone used to ask me what indie rock was i would just play em some sebadoh.
You mighta missed the joke on this one
Sebadoh is has the vocals mixed up front and is fairly vocal/lyric centric, although the guitars were certainly up there, too.
Blake_T wrote:i would call them vocal-centric on many songs but i'm not sure if i'd call them lyric-centric. most of their songs are about getting high, sex, getting high and wanting sex, being an asshole to someone, or having someone be an asshole to them.
Blake_T wrote:btw, are you familiar with small's "chin music" that came out in 94? it's a pretty rock solid indie record from that era that i've met maybe like 5 people who've heard it.
Blake_T wrote:don't get me started on dino jr. a couple of months ago a song was on the radio at work and i wasn't really focusing on it but upon hearing the guitar solo i immediately said "omfg, a guitar solo that bad has to be dinosaur jr." and low and behold, it was
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