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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Dogma » Tue May 31, 2011 10:15 pm

Weren't you complaining about judicial activism just a few pages ago?
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Apothecary » Tue May 31, 2011 10:24 pm

was i? quote me and ill be happy to expound.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Dogma » Wed Jun 01, 2011 5:16 am

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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Apothecary » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:01 am

im of the opinion that the judiciary is the best protection we/the constitution has from the power mongers. that said, sometimes they miss the mark which they did when they allowed corporations to donate limitless funds to political campaigns.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Apothecary » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:20 am

and then they make decisions that expand the police state at the cost of fourth amendment protections on a regular basis.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby krusen » Wed Jun 01, 2011 7:52 am

Dig It wrote:How do you square the fact you say our forefathers are against allocating tax dollars to help with social programs when Benjamin Franklin (mostly) started the first Hospital that used tax dollars to help the poor?

Sounds to me like our forefathers knew about social responsibility well ahead of the curve so I am wondering your take as you said they were the antithesis of socialism.


For one I'll admit I was maybe over reaching a bit in that statement. If you read Bastiat, he echoes a lot of what you read in the Declaration of Independence, which Jefferson wrote, so I guess I will say that the anti-federalists seemed to be on the same page as him.
Franklin was a Federalist, and more prone to using state power to meet the ends of common good. Not sure many of them would have been opposed to state (proper, ie. Pennsylvania) funding for a cause like that. Many of them were very much against too much national power/taxation.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Mixed Bag Madness » Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:17 am

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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Apothecary » Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:01 pm

jefferson is rolling in his grave.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Mixed Bag Madness » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm

Apothecary wrote:jefferson is rolling in his grave.

No shit.... :|
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Mixed Bag Madness » Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm

Mixed Bag Madness wrote:
Apothecary wrote:jefferson is rolling in his grave.

No shit.... :|

What's next? :x
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby krusen » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:56 pm

This guy was was an economic hitman. He offered deals to leaders to buy into a mafia style deal with US big business.
Not sure if I agree with his solutions, but it's very eye opening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oARBdBtG ... r_embedded
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Apothecary » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:21 pm

Damn the hawks.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby krusen » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:54 am

Good article. McCain is such a douche.
Bruce Fein is a smart cookie. I watched a video of him talking about his bookAmerican Empire: Before the Fall that was quite good. He's a little nerdy and spastic, but still gets the message across very well. I should add that book to my reading list.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Apothecary » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:09 am

this isnt right.
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Re: R.I.P. U.S. Constitution

Postby Apothecary » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:46 pm

republicans are scumbags.
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