Frank Delicious wrote:I'm prob gonna stop posting in this thread b/c I hate talking politics on a DG board and it ended very badly last time.
keltik wrote:I think ZAM had the right idea.
dgdave wrote:Listen to ZAM.
i post things at facebook.com/PostIDjsun3thousand wrote:zam is already in your pants.
krusen wrote:I'm guessing you don't truly understand what you're talking about. There is a lot more wealth available to help the poor and feed the needy under a capitalist system. While Canada is slightly more socialistic than the US, their economy (as well as the majority of other countries including the communist ones) uses capitalism. If you engage in trade, you're engaging in capitalism. Sweden is very socialistic, and it works out for them (for now), however, their society is much more cohesive than ours. Deadbeats ususlly get harassed by their friends and neighbors. Despite the problem of human laziness, there is a bigger issue. How do the central planners determine the correct price for a resource without the market pricing mechanism? It's nearly impossible, and leads to all sorts of problems. Here's a short white paper on that subject.
A book I highly recommend is "The Road to Serfdom" by F. A. Hayek. One of the main lessons is that in order to have a socialist system, much of the power must be centralized. This leads inevitably to a dictatorship. If you have even a minor knowledge of history, you will see that this is correct.
Another great book by a 17th century French Philosopher, Frederic Bastiat, is called "The Law" This is much the same libertarian thinking our forefathers agreed with.
Laws are put in place to keep one man from taking another's property. A man has a right to defend his property. A group of men has a right to defend their collective property. Where one man cannot take property from another, it is also wrong for a group of men to take property from another group of men. Charity is great, charity by force of the state is theft.
On May 11, 1751, a charter is granted by the Pennsylvania legislature to establish a hospital to care for the sick-poor and insane who wander the streets of Philadelphia. The story of the Good Samaritan is chosen by Franklin and Bond as the official seal, and "Take Care of Him and I will repay Thee" ushers in a new attitude of social responsibility.
Apothecary wrote:neither capitalism nor socialism are explicitly ingrained in the constitution.
please start your own thread on this topic if youd like to discuss this (as the nazi mods of dgr insist).
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