Bradley Walker wrote:JR wrote:Jager wrote:
Where's the similar response from Americans to the continued expose of Bradley about his lack of knowledge of history? And being long winded about it?
Attack the man.
Repeat the mantra.
What started my posting was that I responded to comments attacking US efforts in Iraq. In these comments the US efforts were made to be no better than Saddam Hussein (I found the comments offensive in the extreme). I then showed these comments to be exaggerated in the extreme to the point of being ridiculous.
Then I made the point that the US efforts in Iraq are not that dissimilar from the efforts that the US made in Europe following WW2 and all during the period of the Cold War. As a result, countries like Finland have DIRECTLY benefited from the toil of the US taxpayer and our flawed capitalist system.
If you want to use my lack of Finnish history (I would hope you know more Finnish history than I do) as a distractive tactic to avoid admitting the fact that your entire continent has basked in the sun provided by the US military for decades (paid for by the capitalist US taxpayer), go ahead...
I think I made my point.
I had hoped for Bradley to get it but he seems to require a wake up call about his thought processes and the ways he adopts ideas. I had hoped I wouldn't have to return to history so this really is my last charge at trying to make him not look bad in the future. Sorry about the return to history everyone else
Argh! This ain't fun!
Bradley your points were made and not supported by reality
That's why there's been so much posting against your points. In short people have been telling you that you've been duped.
With what I know about war it seems to me that you're defending bad apples with bad apples. Us in Iraq. You're free to do so and think so. Don't wonder if you're met with differing opinions. Even more so with the incompetence of Europe. In many areas. Like defending itself from the SU. I think that you've adopted a lot of propaganda as the truth.
Now who said flawed capital system? Who named all Europeans as socialists? Can't you defend your position without resorting to name calling?
The US doesn't have a capitalist system FYI. Market economy and quartal economy are the terms used by scientists but isn't mafia governments more appropriate all over the world? Haven't checked but most of western Europe has right wing governments. Finland does.
In your mind the SU was a juggernaut. I say it was a giant with wooden legs. Especially after WW2 before the next generation was born since their people would've revolted if war against the west would've happened. The Soviets were spent psychologically after WW2. Stalin knew that. He wasn't happy about it because he wanted world domination and even he understood that the Soviets had shot their load. It's not the weapons that do all of the fighting. You need the trigger man and Stalin knew well what happened in 1917. Being a part of the revolution. The people in the SU knew exactly what war is after WW2 when every family had lost members. The soldiers were so sickened that they'd not been able to fight. According to official Soviet studies.
Hungary...
You go ask them. Do you really think western European countries are so silly to help a communist country in their revolt (led by communists minded nationalists) and challenging nuclear armed SU? The US didn't despite your president promising support. Cough cough. Do you think western European countries wouldn't rally together in case of Soviet invasion to the west since no government here is that naive over Soviets that they wouldn't know that if one is attacked every other country will be too? Knowing how Stalin thinks and has acted. Finland probably wasn't considered important enough to go to war for though. Occupation was a threat but it wouldn't have been a cake walk like never before. Finland has stood toe to toe against Russians/Soviets without outside influence militarily before. With Sweden occupied a lot of western areas of SU before SU to Ukraine for a while...
Setting Tumpsi straight with facts in the name of fairness and truth: Finland won at most a hollow victory in WW2. Militarily Finland didn't win at all. Surviving is a victory despite losing the war but on the battlefields despite stopping Soviet advances Finland was forced to sue for peace. Eventually line swould've broken and the army beaten. Guerilla war would've been the only option but maybe not that effective to drive the Soviets out. Look at 1905 Bobrikov's assasination didn't make the Russians go away. Stopping Soviets militarily in 44 was temporary had the soviets decided to commit to occupation. Luckily the price for attempting got too high and time ran out. Finnish economy didn't survive and there was famine so Finland sued for peace. Timing mattered because 44 results were due to German food and weapons supplies that wouldn't have existed in 45 so the only time to avoid risking another Soviet attack for which Finns weren't equipped and fed was to get out ASAP. If the Soviets didn't have to rush to Berlin but could've kept the pressure Finland would've lost on the battlefields eventually and nobody knows how that would've ended but occupation is very likely. Finnish lines broke a couple of times but the Soviets didn't realize it or capitalize it.
Just like in Winter War Finnish lines were broken and no reserves left in the Karelian isthmus on the day of the armistice. A regiment of Finns was surrounded basically without ammo on ice in the Gulf of Finland most guys wet from falling through the ice thanks to Soviet arty. Cracked ice. Cold winter day so most guys would've died of frost bites or pneumonia even without artillery or Soviet attacks. The place of the breach was such that the Soviets would've only needed to march forward to surround the Finns at the isthmus and game over. Don't fall victim to propaganda.
Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.
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