Argh, I miswrote there. In the quoted part it should've been planting to the _right_ of the center line for leaning your body to the left=hyzer.
It's personal for everyone but slowing down to one third speed should help in rearranging timing. You can look down to your hips in the x step to see when to start using shoulders but being after the beginning of the hip twist(explosion). I think that it's possible to feel things better if you wait a bit with the beginning of the shoulder turn. I'm not sure if it's the best possible timing for power generation. Whatever you do make sure that you're still accelerating with the hips and shoulders when the disc is a disc diameter short of being released with arm straight pointing towards target and torso facing target.
Your body control and acceleration ability determines how late you delay the beginning of the shoulder turn and how early you need to accelerate with full power. That's field practice time. Videoing should help self diagnosis.
To interject with Aaron I think that you shouldn't be falling to your right side. You should be falling forwards towards the target by bending from waist forward. With stomach and back muscles pushing you forwards. Simultaneously shifting weight forward with the legs. You also should be pivoting hard to the right by remaining upright. If you were looking down from above you should pivot clockwise not falling to the right.
Öystein Carlsen wrote in his thesis that the farther back your throwing elbow is in the reach back the more power you can have in the throw. He didn't mention that it requires proper timing, body control, and late acceleration. To paraphrase the articles on the main page if I understood correctly someone of the authors suggested trying to maximize power generation by trying to move as much as possible. Adding to that the standard advice of late power focus I think the answer to question 3 is to turn back as much as you can before you lose distance thanks to lack of power/acceleration ability/muscle power. That means that when you progress you can turn back even farther. If your best D doesn't come with full hip/shoulder twist back in the reach back.
If I understand correctly using the highest amount of power with the hips and shoulder turn for maximum acceleration should come when the disc is about 8-10" from releasing from your fingers.
Man_Utenbart wrote:Thank you everyone for the input!
Now that I know what my main problem is, I'm really looking forward to go out on the practise field trying to correct it.
A few more questions though:
Simply planting to the center of the tee or to the left of it and twisting hard with the hips and still staying relaxed in the beginning of the throw helps a ton
1. I have a hard time feeling my hips leading the toso. Will planting my last step further to the middle of the tee help with this? Would a delay of my torso waiting for the hips turning them also help?
your whole body is following through way off to the right. I do this a lot on accident too. Make sure youre following through towards your target.
2. How do I correct this? Leaning more to the left?
3. I'm a flexy guy, specially in my upper body. I can twist my waist so much that my chest is in line with my butt. Could this be a problem? Where in the throw should I use my upper body muscles the most? Often my body feels like a cold spaghetti using no mucles at all, but with a flat throw I'm tossing my drivers out to about 100 meters. And that's only 10-15 meters longer than my putters (!).
Thank's again, it's really nice of you guys trying to help me out
Holy cow, I have been trying the opposite all the way. Beeing soft and fluid in that part of the body in almost the entire throwing motion. Guess I never have had body timing, but a good rip/snap every now and then.