felixtibs wrote: I was unaware i was even leading with elbow, just trying to pull through in a straight line. But now that you mention it, I will try and enforce its role and smash through as MB puts it
Try to begin the arm acceleration later. After the rear of the disc has passed the right side. Or for snap exercising in the last 12-8" before the arm straightens out completely.
Beware that leading too much with the elbow may be hazardous. You're the person to ask this on this forum so here goes: Last spring I really tried to go overboard with leading with my elbow to the max for as long as I could force my elbow to go using full power. I managed it too well. It felt like my muscles bulged as much they could late in the elbow lead when the upper arm was straight towards the target with my torso facing 90 degrees left of the target. Right side pointing towards the target just like the upper arm. I tried to force the disc to go as close to my chest as possible and force the disc to stay in a straight line until the elbow chops. When the upper arm couldn't move forward any more thanks to full extension it felt like I hit a wall with my elbow based on how I felt in my right shoulder.
It was like I was trying to throw my arm away separating from the shoulder. In terms of physics I think that's what I was attempting without realizing it at the time. There was a huge tension in my elbow as all the force I had generated concentrated in my elbow that was bent as much is possible. All the momentum I had going really hurt for a while in my elbow before finally it opened enough to let the power out by dissipating it into the motion of elbow chop. The elbow didn't feel bad long because the muscles in my shoulder hurt much more and longer. Bothers me 6 months later minimally during a long field practice session using full power.
In medical terms what do you think happened to my shoulder? Stretching as the upper arm moved out fully and couldn't move forwards and the elbow didn't immediately give way in chopping open but did after a slight pause and in a most uncomfortable motion being twisted in an unconventionally tight motion. Or was it the abrupt stop of the upper arm reaching maximum extension that caused a shockwave in the muscles? Or just the shoulder muscles bulging beyond capability using full power to keep the disc maximally close the the chest and keeping the same line. Without help from leg and hip turning initially. They came along only after or simultaneously with elbow chop. Perhaps forced by the elbow not giving way first so the elbow stopping perhaps dragged my legs and hip along to twist to the right.
Something else? Thanks for your opinions.
I didn't go to see a doctor but just took some time off and played with caution and fewer throws than normally with field practice and warmed up and stretched twice as much. And toughed it out until slowly the pain's almost totally gone now.